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mj
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Posted on Friday, 21 January, 2005 - 05:19 pm:   

i have been checking into this forum since its arrival a couple of years ago and i must say am getting bored of the silly chat. I dont really give a ... about baggy dave or hilltop general or pippa or anyone else who seems to have nothing better to do than talk absolute... on this forum. can we get back to geniune opions and issues and those that know who they are can always met and chat like normal peps.. never mind the muggers it makes foresthill look like its full of internet freaks....
Michelle
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Posted on Saturday, 22 January, 2005 - 07:38 pm:   

I totally agree MJ - glad to see the site is tightening up its rules! Long over due
clare
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Posted on Sunday, 23 January, 2005 - 01:45 am:   

mj and michelle i totally disagee with you point of view i have been researching se23 for the last 1 year and feel that there has been a lot of negative comments re: muggings, car break- in etc, enough negative comments to put potential buyers into the area off!!! i myself am looking to invest in a property as a coffee bar and have found people such as baggydave, jack and newman a great help as to find out what people actually want, perhaps its not what you want to read but i find the various people with completely different views a great help. What happenend to freedom of speech. MJ and michelle if you have a problem in the area or raise a valued comment everyone listens or why not listen to other. before you come back with some smart comment about getting a life etc, i have been out tonight in Forest Hill researching the area and had a few drinks, perhaps you should do that sometime, rather than slagging off local people with a opinion!!!!!!
Bosco
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 09:02 am:   

Mj and Michelle - when you have a conversation with people and you start discussing a topic do you expect to still be on the same topic by the time the conversation ends?!

Conversations by their very nature evolve - a website forum is no different. You may not like the Baggy Dave and Toffee Jim et al spat but I think you'll find that many readers and posters on the board find it highly entertaining and if you read the posts properly I think you'll see that in among the silliness they also make some pretty good points.

Your moaning now means that instead of having flowing conversations that raise multiple points we will have a fractured and disjointed forum. Cheers.
Newman
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 09:07 am:   

mj, michelle, dreadfully sorry if you're getting bored with our silly chat...I can only apologise and beg your forgiveness. If you feel so strongly, why don't you create your own thread where we can all enjoy your 'geniune opinions', whatever that means? Fools.
Jack
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 10:12 am:   

Here, here, Newman. Can't be bothered to respond to mj myself as his stupid, semi-illiterate comments speak for themselves.

I'm running the risk of wandering 'off topic' here, but stick with me, as there is a point to this...Clare, I read your comments with interest and was wondering how you are progressing with the coffee bar idea. It would be a welcome addition to the area and I wish you all the best if you decide to go ahead with it.
Adam
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 10:23 am:   

As someone who for many months viewed the posts in the sidelines it was the lighter side of life AKA banter between like minded residents (both from the 'posh estate' and 'vibrant part of town' as they call it) that got me posting.

So many communities in London are faceless, neighbours don't talk to each other, people treat other peoples things with little respect. For christ sake, the moaners grow up. The banter on here shows what kind of community we are, fun, not too serious (at times) pleasent, and most of all, welcoming.

It's a community i'm proud to be part of, and I know many others are too.

A
mj
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 12:18 pm:   

I would like to apologise for my comments made on Friday. I was in a bad mood and wanted to have a moan, as I have no life and was facing the prospect of spending yet another weekend with my mother and her unpleasant fur ball of a cat. This is not the fault of anyone else on this site and I apologise wholeheartedly.
BaggyDave
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 12:31 pm:   

Just like the TV - if you don't like it then switch it off (although what happened to those raunchy films that Channel 5 used to show after the pub on Fridays?)
But it is refreshing that despite of some of our purile conversations we can still get people on board, unless this is not the real MJ or they are double bluffing or whatever
Kit
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 01:13 pm:   

Sorry, but have to agree with mj's original post. I visit the site now and again just catch up on local news but it has become increasingly difficult to see serious stuff through all the silly banter, and unfortunately it does make me switch it off. I like the site a lot but am getting very bored of the needless comments from the usual suspects.
Jack
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 01:24 pm:   

Why don't you stop moaning and instead start your own thread where you can be as serious as you like. Or are you one of those people who doesn't actually have anything to say other than 'I agree with mj'. And it is not becoming increasingly difficult to see serious stuff through all the silly banter, as you put it. Click on any of the threads and you will be greeted with a wealth of useful information about the area.
ToffeeJim
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 02:51 pm:   

Well, well. Just as I think it's safe to go away to attend a weekend-long seminar on advanced pedantic circumlocution for the disenfranchised left (your very own TJ a special guest speaker in fact) I come back to find the site descended into this fractious bout of handbags.

The only thing I will say on the subject is that a community is not a some theoretical entity. It's a teeming mass of individuals each with their own opinions. This is surely the forum's greatest advantage. The representation we otherwise enjoy - the political process - will only ever result in a very generic representation of any one individual's views. This forum is one of the few places we can be free to represent our views on the locality in an unfettered way and to a wider public. Long may that continue - and I look forward to seeing the site host continuing to keep people only on the very longest of leashes.

Incidentally, my weekend away was spent in Venice. This has much that can be recommended to us in Forest Hill. Plenty of good use of water features for the practical and the aesthetic (q.v. my earlier entries on reconverting the railway line to a canal and London Road into cascading water gardens). No cyclists or vegans either. And can I just point out that this last is an aside that is in no way intended to spark further comment or to move the topic on from my primary point about the protection of free speech.
pippa
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 03:01 pm:   

I think we are lucky to have such a poplar website in se23. if you look at sydenham's forum hardly anyone goes on it. yes people have laugh on this site but also they raise valued points. I think people should stop moaning about the content of this website, as I haven't seen them post anything other than criticising messages!
BaggyDave
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Posted on Monday, 24 January, 2005 - 05:37 pm:   

Did you swallow a dictionary while you were there TJ, anyway sure I agree with the sentiments even if I don't understand all the words. And Sure that we all missed you, the web site went into anarchy whilst you were away.
mj
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Posted on Wednesday, 26 January, 2005 - 11:58 am:   

seems someone is impersonating me too.. i thought of an idea why don't all those that want to talk about their personal lives, carry on posting in just this subject site.. then everyone can be happy and jack i am a female and not 'semi-illiterate'.
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Wednesday, 02 March, 2005 - 08:54 pm:   

Just want to note that since the controls on who can contribute to this website no one has impersonated me.

what is wrong with the world today?

Anwer in less than a 1000 words
Andy
Joined 23-02-2005
Posted on Thursday, 03 March, 2005 - 10:30 am:   

Cover versions by boy/girl bands and remakes of classic films.
Newman
Joined 05-01-2005
Posted on Thursday, 03 March, 2005 - 10:43 am:   

Think you've just about summed it up there, Andy. Nominations for worst cover version by boy/girl bands and remakes of classic films anyone? I'm sure that Dave will soon wade in with his suggestions, but here are mine for the time being. The list is endless but here are a few suggestions...Suspicious Minds by that annoying Pop Idol nerd...in fact, any cover version by any of those Pop Idol/Pop Stars people...Under the bridge by All Saints...The tide is high - Atomic Kitten...Films...The Italian Job - let's remake the '60s classic but move the action to America and take out everything that was good about the original...Get Carter - Sly Stallone remake where Jack Carter doesn't die - arrrggghhh!...Oh and that Psycho remake, which wasn't particularly bad, just pointless.
Andy
Joined 23-02-2005
Posted on Thursday, 03 March, 2005 - 11:34 am:   

Alfie! I can't really comment having not seen it but wouldn't even contemplate it, it was all about a cockney jack the lad so to remake it in New York just beggars belief. Eternal Flame. It seemed that they tried to cover it to make it sound exactly the same as the original. I must be missing the point here somewhere. Anybody interested in forming the Forest Hill Grumpy Old Man Club?
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Thursday, 03 March, 2005 - 01:28 pm:   

Modern life is Rubbish (copywright Blur)
I want life to return to the fifties, when everything was so much better (Nicky Campbell)
Aren't we still in the 60s? (when most of those films so badly remade originated from (BaggyDave)
Rather than refer to bad covers it would be simpler to refer to good covers - that version of mad world (originally Tears for Fears) was surprisingly excellent, Hurt by Johnny Cash originally by 9 inch nails?? is out of this world (as he was shortly after recording it), Can't Hurry Love B side from Stray Cats, a female version of Bizarre Love Triangle (originally New Order) - golden rule (unlike Eternal Flame) is that they were done very differntly to original. Exception could be Teenage Kicks (Undertones then Busted), not because it was better, but that it brought this wonderful music to a new generation.

Is any of this connected to SE23 - even I'm having problems!
Newman
Joined 05-01-2005
Posted on Thursday, 03 March, 2005 - 03:11 pm:   

Back to rubbish cover versions...so typical of Dave to hijack a thread with his own agenda...Jennifer Ellison's awful cover of the rather ace Transvision Vamp song - Baby, I don't care. Wendy James, now there was a frontwoman...drool. And, in case you're wondering, this is relevant as Wendy James had a song called London's Brilliant (written by Elvis Costello, I believe) and FH is in (wait for it) London. Oh dear...
Andy
Joined 23-02-2005
Posted on Thursday, 03 March, 2005 - 03:39 pm:   

Everything is connected to SE23. Good covers? I suppose Joe Cocker, Little Help From My Friends. I have a bit of a soft spot for David Gray, Say Hello Don't Wave Goodbye. Saw Elvis Costello at the Top Rank in Brighton on Boxing Day 1978, was one of the best gigs ever, support was Richard Hell and the Voidoids and John Cooper Clarke. I fear this is showing my age.
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Thursday, 03 March, 2005 - 05:33 pm:   

Did the same tour - found Richard Hell a bit difficult and lots of people with beards and sandals knew all the JCC lyrics - perhaps there's a separate theme here, can I say Scunthorpe? But the young ones just wouldn't understand.

My Clash live album has recordings from Lewisham Odeon, well almost FH
Andy
Joined 23-02-2005
Posted on Friday, 04 March, 2005 - 09:02 am:   

It was Kevin Keegan anyway, not JCC.
Jack
Joined 16-11-2004
Posted on Friday, 04 March, 2005 - 09:06 am:   

I have no idea what you are talking about.
Andy
Joined 23-02-2005
Posted on Friday, 04 March, 2005 - 09:30 am:   

The chuckle brothers perhaps but then Scunthorpe would have an extra 's' in it.
Jack
Joined 16-11-2004
Posted on Friday, 04 March, 2005 - 09:49 am:   

Richard Hell, John Cooper Clarke, the Lewisham Odeon, jumpers for goalposts...it's all a bit before my time, I'm afraid.


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