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CC
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| | Posted on Friday, 03 December, 2004 - 10:10 am: | |
When is the next meeting? |
Cllr David Whiting
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| | Posted on Friday, 03 December, 2004 - 12:38 pm: | |
16th December 2004, 7:00pm at Forest Hill Library.
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interested
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| | Posted on Friday, 03 December, 2004 - 03:03 pm: | |
Is anyone invited?
What's on the agenda |
R
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| | Posted on Sunday, 05 December, 2004 - 05:56 pm: | |
as you can see- two threads on same subject..... |
Muddy Waters
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| | Posted on Sunday, 12 December, 2004 - 11:59 am: | |
Forest Hill Steering Group is meeting on Thursday 16 December at 7.30 pm at Forest Hill Library - repeat 7.30 pm (according to the agenda sent from the council)
On the Agenda:
Town Centre Manager Report
Questions to Councillors and other Agencies
Future of the Group
Information items supplied include a Planning Draft Briefing note which includes updates on Sainsburys, Crown Graphic Works, Finches site and Forest Hill Station.
I think this meeting is open to all who are interested in the future of Forest Hill - can Cllr Whiting confirm, please? |
muddy waters
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| | Posted on Wednesday, 15 December, 2004 - 02:03 pm: | |
Hello - councillors - anyone listening?
Confirmation of time and date please and agenda, please. |
MW
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| | Posted on Wednesday, 15 December, 2004 - 03:44 pm: | |
Meeting advertised for Thursday 16 December at 7.30 at FH Library - all interested in the future of FH and its environs welcome!
See you there! |
interested
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| | Posted on Wednesday, 15 December, 2004 - 03:47 pm: | |
I'll be there!
Muddy waters, are any of the papers you mention available for inspection prior to the event or are we expected to digest all the info on the night? |
Cllr David Whiting
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| | Posted on Wednesday, 15 December, 2004 - 04:04 pm: | |
I will be around for 7:00pm, so if you arrive then, you will be able to read the papers before the meeting formally starts.
There is a mailing list, and we can add your name to that for the future. |
interested
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| | Posted on Wednesday, 15 December, 2004 - 04:10 pm: | |
Thanks - I'll keep my eye out for you.
Have been having a poke around the lewisham website and is it the planning breif for the development of the station area that was prepared by Llewelyn Davies in 2002?
ie: http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/planning/planning_briefs_foresthill.asp
Or has this been superceded by something a bit more up to day? |
Matt
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| | Posted on Friday, 17 December, 2004 - 01:39 am: | |
Back late again! Did anyone manage to go to this meeting? Did anything useful result? |
Les.
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| | Posted on Friday, 17 December, 2004 - 12:26 pm: | |
Is there a set of notes for the meeting held yesterday 16/12. |
Le
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| | Posted on Friday, 17 December, 2004 - 12:30 pm: | |
Not a lot of steering to be honest!
And a bit of a bashing of this site from one of our esteemed elected members. Who shall remain nameless but it's not DW I'll say that much.
I was quite dissapointed. The meetings seem to have degenerated into a open forum for moaning. And I'm not too sure the group was really representative of the local community either - but at least they all turn out - whatever their axe to grind, you have to support that.
As someone who has some professional experience in this area I think the group could be used to actually shape what goes on in FH rather than complaining about what is happening when it's too late.
Since most of people's concern about what's going on in the locality seems to revolve around planning issues I think the group should try and be a bit more proactive. The Government have just produced a new Planning Act (Planning and Compulsory Purchase Act 2004 for those interested) and as part of that local councils and developers are required to INVOLVE communities rather than just CONSULT them.
Anyway - I wont go into the subtleties here and now but suffice to say that under the new regime groups like this will find themselves with an enhanced role. However, in order to be effective they need:
1. To be more representative. That doesn't mean full of Cllrs but a better cross section of the local community. This means more young people and BME.
2. To be more proactive. this means producing things. Like letters to people we're not happy with. Or are happy with. Or statements about what we'd collectively like to see happen in FH - rather than waiting for LBL to come to us with ideas.
OK that's my rant over. I am intending to go to the next meeting - which has been pencilled in for the 3/3/05. I would encourage as many people as can make it to go - it would seem that the Councillors really do listen to what goes on there and this is a real opportunity to make sure that the future development of FH (which is already happening as a result of the ELL etc) reflects the communities aspirations. But it won't if no one knows what they are!
OK rant really over now! |
Lee
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| | Posted on Friday, 17 December, 2004 - 12:33 pm: | |
Oh yes - items that were discussed include:
Sainsbury's - seems to be progressing
Clyde Vale footpath - some debate about whether it should be closed or not
New betting office adj to Post Office - some concern that the planners could not stop this
What the group is for - see my personal comments above |
Jon
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| | Posted on Friday, 17 December, 2004 - 04:05 pm: | |
Re Sainsbury's did they give any timelines? The blue boards have been up for two months but I haven't seen any workmen. |
Lee
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| | Posted on Friday, 17 December, 2004 - 04:37 pm: | |
No, no timelines I'm afraid. Apparently there are no planning obstacles preventing the commencement - it's to do with negotiations surounding landownership issues. |
FYI
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| | Posted on Friday, 17 December, 2004 - 07:31 pm: | |
And of course we all know the "esteemed elected member" who Lee refers to. The same one who whinges about most things in the area, but is frankly worse than useless when any positive action is required. A discredit to Forest Hill. |
Jon
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| | Posted on Sunday, 19 December, 2004 - 01:40 pm: | |
Why did they put the blue boards up two months ago if work hasn't got the go-ahead? Very strange decision that gives pedestrians even less space to walk. Cllr Whiting, what exactly is the current situation??? Were the boards just erected to hide the message that promised work would start before Christmas? |
Lee
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| | Posted on Wednesday, 22 December, 2004 - 02:15 pm: | |
Jon - need to look on the positive side. All that blank blue space would be an excellent place for the community to post messages voicing their concern at the delays. A sort of low tech version of this site! Not that I'm advocating bill sticking of course. Hopefully the solicitors will be happy with that!
On a serious note - I expect it's out of sainsbury's hands and they'd like to get started asap. Hopefully this will be resolved soon.
FYI - a bit strong maybe but I agree that postive action is needed. Maybe we could put up a sign 'Welcome to Forest Hill, twinned with etc etc - moaning free zone - if you don't like it move to catford' |
Scipio
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| | Posted on Thursday, 15 September, 2005 - 05:54 pm: | |
Anyone know if a date, time and place has been arranged for the next meeting? |
Roz
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| | Posted on Thursday, 15 September, 2005 - 09:30 pm: | |
funny you should ask, as I had a mailing today.
Its 7.30pm on 22nd September, at the church hall in Sydenham Park. I'll look out the precise address and post here. There seems to be quite a bit on the agenda, including the pools. Apparently there was a consultation from June to Septemnber, but I'm darned if anyone consulted me.... |
Scipio
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| | Posted on Monday, 19 September, 2005 - 12:21 pm: | |
Thanks, Ros. Given the dark evenings,it’s a pity Thursday’s meeting is not in an accessible part of Forest Hill rather than in a Sydenham side road,not easily accessed by public transport. |
Roz
Joined 17-03-2005
| | Posted on Monday, 19 September, 2005 - 10:50 pm: | |
Good point- should go on as an agenda item, as accessibility is a key factor in encouraging participation. I think they've got a real problem with finding local venues,however I don't see anything wrong in hiring, say, the back room of a pub, or one of the many schools in the area.
Forest Hill Library and the Church Hall next to it have been previous good choices, as is the one on the corner of Stanstead Road. There is also the police station on Dartmouth Road. Apparently its for hire in the evenings. |
