|Posted on Saturday, 06 March, 2004 - 12:00 am: |
There are so many mentions on this site about rat running but little is said about the likely cause-the increased congestion on the south circular in Forest Hill. There are a few issues that really need looking at-
1)Drivers turning right into the station block the flow of traffic behind them.They can't get through oncoming traffic and there are often badly parked cars there that make access difficult.
2) The Tesco petrol station nr Hornimans- there are often tailbacks of traffic trying to get in- the design of this garage is bad- not enough room for cars and to boot, people just leave their cars at the pumps whilst they do their weekly shopping. If this was regulated better and there were more people on the till,to get people through faster this would reduce the problem. Was the design and operation of this facility not discussed at planning stage? Were there not conditions to reduce the impact on traffic flow?
3) Very nice to see the area behind the former Blue Mountain cafe being rebuilt, however no-one seems to have taken account of the effect of construction deliveries in the rush hour- lorries are parked there regularly and cars coming up the inside lane cannot see them, and have to brake and swerve into the right hand lane. Could arrangements not be made so this doesn;t happen in the rush hour(s) ie 8am.? Again, why no planning conditions dealing with this?
These seem very commonsensical things so why can they not be thought through?
The Council's website asked the public why they thought the South circ had become busier of late/ It would be good to see the results of this, but frankly,are they so dependent on the public to tell them whats going on?
|Posted on Saturday, 06 March, 2004 - 08:06 am: |
Totally agree with Bill. And when the new Sainsbury store is being rebuilt in Forest Hill, there will be even more congestion on the approach to Forest Hill.
One positive note - after much haranguing of interested parties, in December, I received an email from our local MP, who in turn had been informed by TfL that by Spring, 'yellow boxes' will be in place at entrances to FH Station to ease the congestion problems there. Watch this space!
|Posted on Saturday, 06 March, 2004 - 08:48 am: |
Seriously - how many people take notice of 'Yellow Boxes' when it interferes with what they want to do. A classic example that I see every Day is at the bottom of Blackheath Hill where it crosses Lewisham Road. The traffic going up towards Blackheath blocks the yellow box all the time causing constant congestion. I'm sure the majority of drivers seem to think the Council just paints these boxes to use up left over yellow paint.
|Posted on Monday, 08 March, 2004 - 01:24 pm: |
I agree 100% that the Tesco Store/garage has caused numerous problems.
Another problem , outside McDonalds near the 176/312 bus stop. Mosy people seem to ignore the fact that they should not park here, the buses then have to go in the middle lane.I have yet to see anyone booked there.
|Posted on Monday, 08 March, 2004 - 07:02 pm: |
this is for Cllr Whiting who I know reads this website religiously- can you update us please on the councils survey, and what the conventional wisdom is as to the source of the problems- and perhaps some solutions?
|Cllr David Whiting|
|Posted on Monday, 15 March, 2004 - 06:23 pm: |
Bill I read it fairly regularly, but not when I'm having a nice time in le Touquet (from which I returned today).
I will get back to you as soon as poss.
|Posted on Tuesday, 23 March, 2004 - 04:13 am: |
What they should do to resolve the problem of the congestion in Forest Hill is to breakdown all the buildings from Tesco station to after the railway bridge and enlarge the road.
This would handle it.
I don't why no one thought about this before!
|Posted on Tuesday, 23 March, 2004 - 01:13 pm: |
They have. Or rather the Tory dinosaurs did. Around 1988/1989 to be exact, and fortunately, there was local uproar leading to the quashing of this idea. These are/were peoples homes. Building bigger roads has never seemed to provide a solution anywhere yet.
PS Cllr Whiting, wheres my reply? You must have got over the escargot by now.
|Posted on Tuesday, 23 March, 2004 - 01:16 pm: |
.. and one more thing. Another set of traffic lights on Forest Hill near the junction of London and Honor Oak Road, approx 30 feet from an existing set of lights! This is leading to increased congestion. No consultation /consideration on the traffic impact elsewhere in the area.
|Posted on Tuesday, 23 March, 2004 - 08:43 pm: |
Bill I agree with this - it is bad enough that people exiting Tescos and heading into Forest Hill invariably run the lights now they also have the potential of killing some pedestrians as well. Plus who keeps changing the sequencing on the lights with Honor Oak Road and London Road - this always causes havoc by causing large traffic queues along Honor Oak Road and then more people shoot down Manor Mount ignoring the one way signs.
|Cllr David Whiting|
|Posted on Wednesday, 24 March, 2004 - 01:14 pm: |
I have now established that the research in question was undertaken by the Environment Select Committee as part of an investigation into TfL related matters.
It appears that the relevant papers are not yet on the Council website. I have asked that this is arranged and I will let you know when they are up.
|Posted on Thursday, 25 March, 2004 - 08:49 am: |
There have been numerous posts on this forum wanting a crossing on London Road just where they are now putting one. Now we have people criticising it. You just can't please everyone!!
What is of more concern is the huge heap of spoil that has been dumped at the very bottom of Taymount Rise making access both in and out extreemly difficult and hazardous. Can't they find a more suitable and less dangerous place to put it?
|Posted on Thursday, 25 March, 2004 - 02:18 pm: |
sorry, but whilst this measure may solve one problem, it produces another one somewhere else. Decisions such as these need to be made taking into account the potential negative impacts elsewhere- a joined up integrated strategy would have been nice and in line with Government recommendations.
|Posted on Wednesday, 15 September, 2004 - 11:48 pm: |
The build up of stationary traffic through Forest Hill has been particularly bad today because of road works on London Road. The Morrison gang have been out in force digging out a large crater opposite the Horniman Museum. Looks like a major problem with the water main. Anyone know what exactly is wrong - and when it will be fixed?
|Posted on Thursday, 16 September, 2004 - 09:11 am: |
There seems to be a problem in this area with the water mains on a regular basis. I have lived in Forest Hill for over 30 years and it seems to me that this particular spot seems to be dug up at least once a year by the water company. If this section of water main is in such a poor condition that it fails on such a regular basis isn't it about time they did a proper job on it and saved us water rate payers a bit of money.
|Posted on Friday, 17 September, 2004 - 07:35 am: |
Bad news - The gridlock on the South Circular(and the knock on effect on Dartmouth Road) will continue today. Morrisons have worked all through the night but the job is not finished and the large deep hole in the South Circular is still there. Sydenham Rise will also remain closed to all traffic until the water main problem is sorted and the 6 metre deep hole in the South Circular is filled in and the carraigeway resurfaced.
|Posted on Wednesday, 29 September, 2004 - 09:18 pm: |
After the initial massive tailbacks when Morrisons first started looking for water leaks in Forest Hill, it has been noticeable that we have not been getting nearly so many freight vehicles using the South Circular. Has anyone else noticed this? A neighbour who travels regularly from Tilbury Docks has often said that this is where the big stuff is travelling to and from. I wonder which alternative route they have been taking.
|Posted on Sunday, 03 October, 2004 - 06:48 pm: |
Why oh why do we still have a minor roadwork on London Road just south of the new pedestrian crossing. The manhole has had barriers around it for months and it is a pain - does anyone know why it has not been fixed as yet?