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Tttttttttttttt
Joined 28-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 09 August, 2007 - 04:17 pm:   

Hi

Have some horrible aluminium double glazing, which is coming to the end of its life and would really like to replace them with sashes, but a deciding factor may well end up being the cost .... Anyone have any personal experience/recommendations for reasonably priced replacement sash windows.
themeans@talk21.com
Applespider
Joined 26-02-2006
Posted on Sunday, 19 August, 2007 - 09:26 am:   

In a similar vane, I have a sash window which needs serious repairs... (if not replacement) - if anyone was able to give a recommendation to Ttttttttt, could you possibly also give one to me?

Thanks

appspiderfc@gmail.com
Tersie
Joined 04-02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, 21 August, 2007 - 08:52 pm:   

Hi there
I am still looking for a company to replace a sash or put in a decent UPVC replacement for a back window. Got Zenith out and they quoted 1300 ;-O
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Thursday, 30 August, 2007 - 05:40 pm:   

Living South delivered to those of us on the posh side of the tracks is full of ads for such things - inbetween nanny services and prep schools. But if you are ordering new windows please use the proper terminology - 'box sash' ie the sash (the opening window) slides down a box (unlike casement which opens on a hinge). I blame the end of National Service,the decline of the grandma schools and the new easy CSE's for the low level of architectural knowledge. There was a company called Box Sash Willy on the rhs of the road South Circ on the bend, after the bridge. Looks rather derelict now. Maybe Robwinton or Steve Grindley can enlighten us about this historic site.

Also you will find previous discussions on this subject on the website.
Robwinton
Joined 07-06-2006
Posted on Thursday, 30 August, 2007 - 07:17 pm:   

I'm not sure, but I would speculate that as most companies generate much of their new business from the internet, "Box Sash Willy" might have been attracting the wrong sort of customers and suffered accordingly, or gone into a different line of work

I'd like to point out that this is entirely speculative and I have not attempted any such search for fear of what I might find
Stevegrindlay
Joined 24-10-2006
Posted on Friday, 31 August, 2007 - 07:16 pm:   

Box Sash Willy's actually still survives, in Malham Road.

Their old building, next to the bridge, remained unoccupied after they moved but since at least the late 19th century the site had been used for light industrial purposes, including a bicycle manufacturer (1890s) and a fountain pen maker (1920s).

At the extreme left of the site, next to the bridge, was a flight of steps that led, via a footpath beside the railway line, to the station. At some point in the distant past it was closed but, although densely overgrown, it is still possible to see the stone tread of the first step beneath the fence.
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Friday, 31 August, 2007 - 08:23 pm:   

Thanks Steve, pelased to hear that there is some history around what appears to be a bit of waste land. Perhaps not blue plaque material - how many do we have by the way?
Stevegrindlay
Joined 24-10-2006
Posted on Saturday, 01 September, 2007 - 03:46 pm:   

Actually, Baggydave, commemorative plaques are rather like windows (which is fortunate, given the theme of this thread) ; it is important to distinguish the different types.

The most prestigious are the "Blue Plaques". They have been successively the responsibility of the RSA, the LCC, the GLC and now English Heritage. There are fairly strict criteria controlling the approval of these plaques; principally they should be on a building in which the person actually lived, and the person (unless he is Jimi Hendrix) should have been dead for over 50 years. Next there are plaques erected by local authorities and local amenity groups, who tend to have less stringent criteria. Finally there are those erected by private individuals, and they tend to have no criteria at all.

I believe there are only four commemorative plaques in Forest Hill (I would be delighted to be proved wrong). The only genuine blue plaque is on the tower of the Horniman Museum. It was placed there by the GLC and states that "The Horniman Museum and gardens were given to the people of London in 1901 by Frederick John Horniman who lived near this site". This is significant because the building does not actually fulfil one of the criteria (that he lived in it).

At 2 Manor Mount there is a Lewisham Council mauve plaque recording the fact that Dietrich Bonhoeffer lived there 1933-1935.

There is the privately installed plaque on Ashberry Cottage, 62 Honor Oak Road, claiming that: Here lived William, Duke of Clarence later King William IV and Mrs Dorothy Jordan actress. This claim has been authoritatively debunked.

Finally, and perhaps most curious, there is a plaque on a house in Woolstone Road claiming the artist John Linnell lived there and was visited by William Blake. Apart from the fact that Blake died more than 50 years before there were any houses in Woolstone Road there is no evidence whatsoever to link Linnell with this area. The plaque, however, is a genuine GLC blue plaque, cast in iron. There is an identical plaque on an old timber farmhouse in Hampstead, and that is where Linnell lived. The most plausible explanation is that several plaques were cast, the best being used in Hampstead. Somehow one of the rejects made its way to Woolstone Road. I noticed recently that the plaque is now pretty well obscured by climbing plants.

So, the short answer is that Forest Hill has four plaques, but two are fakes.

I apologise that post is both too long and in entirely the wrong thread.
Stevegrindlay
Joined 24-10-2006
Posted on Saturday, 01 September, 2007 - 04:02 pm:   

Sorry, a correction - a person has to have been dead for 20 (not 50) years, so that lets Jimi in.
Michael
Joined 04-03-2005
Posted on Saturday, 01 September, 2007 - 05:54 pm:   

There is another purple plaque on Stondon Park for Jim Connell
http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/LeisureAndCulture/LocalHistoryAndHeritage/People/ConnellJim.htm

Beyond SE23, but not too far beyond:
Boris Karloff has a plaque on Forest Hill Road, but in SE22
CS Forester has a plaque in Underhill Road, SE22
George Baxter on the other side of Baxter's Field in SE26 (now I know why it is called Baxter's Field)
Stevegrindlay
Joined 24-10-2006
Posted on Saturday, 01 September, 2007 - 10:11 pm:   

Of course you're right, and there are others. I just hadn't realised how far Forest Hill extended.
Sherwood
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Sunday, 02 September, 2007 - 05:01 pm:   

Steve,

One day when I walked past the house in Woolstone Road, two ladies were looking up at the blue plaque and said that it was impossible. I don't think it is fooling anyone. But why would anyone put such a plaque up on his house?
Roz
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Sunday, 02 September, 2007 - 05:50 pm:   

I recall a blue plaque somewhere near to Sydenham Park- I'll have a look again next time I go past. Anyone know anything about this?

Shall we start up a thread about Blue Plaques as this very interesting discussion could be lost in a thread about windows.......
Stevegrindlay
Joined 24-10-2006
Posted on Sunday, 02 September, 2007 - 06:49 pm:   

That would be a mauve Lewisham plaque on 20 Sydenham Park Road, recording the fact that Richard Jefferies, a Victorian natural history writer, stayed there as a child. The house belonged to his uncle and aunt.

I have no idea why, Sherwood, I can only assume that they thought it was a good idea at the time. It's pretty well hidden now, so it seems it became an embarrassment. Maybe they got fed up with people knocking on their door to ask about it.

A separate thread for commemorative plaques seems like a good idea.
Sherwood
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Sunday, 02 September, 2007 - 09:14 pm:   

W G Grace (1848-1915) lived on Lawrie Park Road. I assume there will be a blue plaque.
Robwinton
Joined 07-06-2006
Posted on Sunday, 02 September, 2007 - 09:28 pm:   

Talking of plaques, you might like to see this one. I might be in SE23 (location unknown at present so as good a guess as any to keep it on track)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hackstonr/1295006071/in/pool-guesswherelondon/
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Monday, 03 September, 2007 - 10:22 pm:   

For some balance here is a nice one of our favourite mayor on a bicycle
http://www.spokes.org.uk/oldsite/images/ken.jpg

And the worst thing that he has done, the bloomin bendy buses (fortunately not yet coming to a street near you)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4950636.stm
Sherwood
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Tuesday, 04 September, 2007 - 10:30 am:   

Baggydave,

I saw a bendy bus in Houston Road and I had not been drinking!

It turned right into Perry Hill. I assumed that the idea was to test if it could make the turn.
Tersie
Joined 04-02-2007
Posted on Thursday, 06 September, 2007 - 08:30 am:   

Back to the sash window thread. I have found someone based in Crystal Palace. He has not done the work yet but has given me a very reasonable quote to fix my sash window and comes recommended. If any one is interested in his number pls drop me a line.
Applespider
Joined 26-02-2006
Posted on Thursday, 06 September, 2007 - 09:22 am:   

Tersie, I'd love his number!

appspiderfc@gmail.com


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