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Hany
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| | Posted on Monday, 03 November, 2003 - 04:06 pm: | |
I've been living in Forest Hill nearly 2 years now and still have to go to Blackheath to see Guy Fawkes night. When we are going to start to organise one? |
MT
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| | Posted on Monday, 03 November, 2003 - 04:49 pm: | |
Absolutely, a display in the Horniman Gardens would attract a big crowd and perhaps raise money for a good cause. |
calum
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| | Posted on Wednesday, 10 December, 2003 - 12:22 am: | |
Hate to be cynical, but anyone who wants to see/hear fireworks in SE23 ought to walk around the Honor Oak/Horniman/Derby Hill areas at around 2am on Sunday mornings, as , believe it or not, there are some people who think it reasonable to kick off their private firework displays in their back gardens at this time.
Selfish people! You know who you are. |
Brian
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| | Posted on Wednesday, 10 December, 2003 - 03:44 pm: | |
I must agree 100% with Calum , I have lost count of the number of nights I have been disturbed by private events. Having said that no problem at all with an official display at Horniman's |
Cllr David Whiting
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| | Posted on Friday, 12 December, 2003 - 11:54 am: | |
The Government is looking at tighter regulation of the possession and use of fireworks. Lewisham Council will be fully supporting this initiative, and submitting suggestions as to matters to be covered by tighter regulation.
While fireworks are good fun, anyone with animals will be very aware that they are now let off nightly for about three to four weeks around the 5th November, often, as Callum and Brian note, at anti-social hours.
If anyone has ideas on firework licensing, I or my two colleagues Susan Wise or Peter Dawson would be pleased to hear them.
So far as a display in Horniman Gardens is concerned, this would have to be taken up with the Horniman Museum authorities, as the park is owned and managed by them, and not by the local authority.
I would hope also that there would be proper prior consultation with people living very close by. The Blackheath and Crystal Palace displays are rather further from the nearest houses. |
calum
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| | Posted on Friday, 12 December, 2003 - 10:30 pm: | |
Further to Cllr Whiting's entry, why is it that whenever I have phoned up Lewisham Council' Environmental Health Dept about fireworks- last time two months ago at 3 am on a Sunday morning- there was no-one around to do anything? I thought the EH service was 24 hours! |
Cllr David Whiting
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| | Posted on Saturday, 13 December, 2003 - 12:03 am: | |
I will look into your complaint, Calum. Please send a few more details to me on
Cllr_Dave.Whiting@lewisham.gov.uk
My understanding is that the service is 7 days a week, but is not all night, which may explain why your 3:00am call had no effect.
The other problem with firework noise is likely to be overload - there are a lot of firework parties as well as the usual clutch of noisy parties, late night building or demolition works and so on. Also, I've no idea how easy it it to measure firework noise for enforcement purposes. For which reasons, I think we need legislation banning the private use of fireworks outside certain times.
Besides taking up your experiences with Environmental Health, I will ask the officer who is leading on our programme to improve the handling of public enquiries across the Council to see whether there are any general lessons to be learned. We want to ensure that people get just as good a response in the middle of the night as in the day. |
calum
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| | Posted on Tuesday, 16 December, 2003 - 10:20 pm: | |
Thanks, however my understanding from the Council officers themselves was that the Environmental Health Service operated all night at weekends, with officers on call, working from their homes. However, recently it seems that the Council has withdrawn funding support for this service, and when I called I was told that the EH officer would deal with car and burglar alarms only. I would appreciate your advising the nature and extent of the current out of hours service so that we know what to expect. |
FRANCESCA
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| | Posted on Thursday, 22 January, 2004 - 07:38 pm: | |
As near neighbours of Hornimans we think it would be a bad idea to have the noise and distress of fireworks imposed upon us - and the area's large population of bird animal life.
Horniman's is a very small area but its role has been expanded artificially and far beyond its natural capacity in recent years. Consequently it has lost much of its original charm. Once it was a pleasure to catch strains of music from the brass bands on Sunday afternoons. More recently the noise from their summer events, when so-called music is amplified to deafening point often means that local people who spend all week working are deprived of the benefit of their gardens in summer - not at all what the founder had in mind for his generous bequest. Hornimans was intended as a centre of culture and civilisation, not the ugly, noisy factory and neighbour from hell it thas become. |
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