|Posted on Wednesday, 07 March, 2007 - 10:55 pm: |
Another drinks-related query for those of long local standing. Does anybody remember Tyrols on Stanstead Road? A short hop from the Railway Telegraph on the junction of Wastdale Rd and Stanstead Rd. A modern block of flats stands there now. It's in the 1987 CAMRA guide to SE London, so must have served some reasonable beer despite being a Watneys pub.
|Posted on Wednesday, 07 March, 2007 - 11:48 pm: |
Unfortunately I was not here then.
Interestingly enough, however, I had recently spotted the fact that another Public House appeared on that spot on my Ordnance Survey map dated 1894-96. It appeared to be quite large, at least the size of the Railway Telegraph (also on the map along with the St. Germains) with a massive piece of land around it. Early days for beer gardens, no?
|Posted on Thursday, 08 March, 2007 - 06:16 am: |
I remember this one -I think it became a second hand car place for a while as I remember lots of cars for sale on the forecourt. A large Austrian chalet minus the geranium window boxes. When it was a pub there were tables at the front, not quite a beer garden I think.
|Posted on Thursday, 08 March, 2007 - 07:03 am: |
Yes Tyrols was a large pub...transported from the ski slopes of europe to Forest Hill as the area was renowned as the home for many skiers. This was due to Finches having an international reputation for the supply of ski equipment and bottled gas.
I believe the barman used to wear leather shorts tyrolian hats, while the female staff dressed as milkmaids. But I could be mistaken.
Catford still has it cat, Lewisham had it's Sumo wrestlers and Forest Hill had the Tyrol.
|Posted on Thursday, 08 March, 2007 - 07:42 am: |
Tyrols? Surely you mean The Swiss Cottage; yet another example of a needlessly renamed pub. It was built about 1853 and demolished in 1990 and was probably the most unusual pub in the area. I've uploaded a picture of it taken about 100 years ago (apologies for the quality, it was scanned from an uncleaned glass negative)
|Posted on Thursday, 08 March, 2007 - 08:24 am: |
Yes the 'Swiss Cottage' they don't build pubs like that anymore...so I may be right in thinking it was a meeting place for those visiting the ski slopes of Blythe Hill and Hilly Fields????
Whatever happened to the Stanstead picture palace, does it still exist?
|Posted on Thursday, 08 March, 2007 - 09:09 am: |
Yes I remember the Swiss Cottage ( not a nice pub )
|Posted on Thursday, 08 March, 2007 - 06:21 pm: |
Loneranger, the Stanstead picture palace was demolished in 1975. It was in Wastdale Road, next to the surviving Salvation Army (now RNA) hall.
Until the Capitol was built in 1929 it was Forest Hill's principal cinema. There was another, in Dartmouth Road, that struggled to survive for a few years from 1910-1914 and then succumbed, probably the result of the Stanstead Picture Place's opening in 1913. The picture palace showed its last film in 1955 and became, as so often happened, a bingo hall.
|Posted on Thursday, 08 March, 2007 - 09:56 pm: |
So the cimema lasted quite a long time.
One thing I've noticed about Forest Hill is the number of religous organisations. For example Sunderland Road had churches at either end and the Quakers and Jehovah Witnessess inbetween.
|Posted on Thursday, 08 March, 2007 - 10:41 pm: |
Steve, thanks so much for that. What a wonderful picture. it gives a whole new angle to the area. Clearly the south side has long been the vibrant heart of our district.
|Posted on Friday, 09 March, 2007 - 12:11 am: |
Not really, Byron used to hang out at the Harvester. UDB was way cool in the 18th and early 19th centuries.
|Posted on Friday, 09 March, 2007 - 03:23 am: |
"Sunderland Road had churches at either end..."
I know the one on Stansted Rd but the other?
Was it on Perry vale?
Or are you referring to Christ Church?
After Steve's fascinating historical walk, I find myself taking quite an interest in this sort of thing...
|Posted on Friday, 09 March, 2007 - 10:01 am: |
I was hastening home in a taxi last week when esteemed black cabby launched into a lecture on why there are so few pubs in FH. My recollection of the conversation is a little hazy, but apparantly it was due to the strength of the temperance movements when mass settlement arrived. That would probably also explain the remarkable number of protestant offshoots that populate the area.
More tea Christadelphian vicar?
|Posted on Friday, 09 March, 2007 - 10:07 am: |
Although I don't doubt that Byron was fond of his garlic mushrooms and lasagne to be fair he wouldn't have had many dining opportunities in Forest Hill at the time. And I'm afraid the Harvester is LDB not UDB but as the UDB residents don't have any pubs of their own they do tend to gravitate that way. Presumably for the excellent parking facilities.
|Posted on Saturday, 10 March, 2007 - 05:04 pm: |
Perryman...yes meant Christ Church.
|Posted on Saturday, 10 March, 2007 - 10:48 pm: |
There is a large area of Catford that is without a pub because the bulder had signed the pledge. I think this might be what your cabby should have been talking about.
|Posted on Monday, 12 March, 2007 - 08:50 am: |
Yes I was looking at houses in this area of Catford and was told it was devolped by a Scotish
Although I am a pub goer seeing some of the pubs wer have today maybe he had a point