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I've got the hump with the new humps ...

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Joined 06-02-2007
Posted on Thursday, 01 March, 2007 - 09:25 pm:   

Can anyone PLEASE explain to me why Lewisham Council thought it necessary to install humps on St. German's Road? I'm talking specifically about the part at the top of the rise, where it runs into Stanstead Road...a few hundred yards up the road from the Honor Oak Pub, in other words...there is very little traffic in this road generally, and really no need for traffic calming measures, though we could perhaps do with a large mirror or something so that motorists and pedestrians alike can see what's coming around what is quite a sharp corner...I live right on the corner of what is a really quite and traffic free road, and and cannot for the life of me understand just why Lewisham Council took it into their heads to install humps...wouldn't the cash have been better spent fixing the pavements and poor road surfaces elsewhere?

Oh, and another matter: what can be done about fly-tippers? The fact that this road is so quiet and traffic free encourages fly-tipping...not a week goes by when some white van man doesn't dump a load of decrepit furniture on the give them their due, Lewisham Council gets it removed very quickly, but its still a nuisance...will the Council or police really respond if I give them the van numbers?
Joined 28-11-2006
Posted on Friday, 02 March, 2007 - 08:55 am:   

Cessj, I totally agree with you! (see my earlier comments on the Dodgy road planning thread).

Lewisham council have a vendetta against the motorist, I'm convinced!

I wince everytime I drive over a speed bump now, I can only imagine the premature suspension failure etc on my car and the large bills that will soon be coming my way!

Perhaps Lewisham council would like to waste some more council tax and make a contribution towards the garage bill.
Joined 08-05-2005
Posted on Friday, 02 March, 2007 - 10:23 am:   

Cessj - Lewisham Council has a good record of tackling fly-tippers, including taking them to court. Yes, do record registration numbers, check dumped rubbish for any “distinguishing marks”, take photos as evidence, and pass to the council.
Joined 12-02-2007
Posted on Friday, 02 March, 2007 - 11:36 am:   

Talking of roads generally in SE23 and HOP in particular, does anyone know why, without fail, at this time of the year the roads are dug up for gas/water works? I suspect that the Council are trying to use up any excess budget but it does seem rather over the top.
Joined 13-02-2006
Posted on Friday, 02 March, 2007 - 12:54 pm:   

Cessj - Try This is a council-run web site that lets you report and upload photos of all sorts of anti-social things, including fly-tipping. Personal experience is that they're very good / quick at fixing problems.
Joined 18-04-2005
Posted on Friday, 02 March, 2007 - 01:24 pm:   

Hi Broadbeanster
I would have thought gas and water works in the road would the the province of the utility not the LBC.
Joined 12-02-2007
Posted on Friday, 02 March, 2007 - 01:56 pm:   

Hello Brian

That's a valid point. Still seems madness that the roads need to be dug up every year though whether by council or utility companies.
Joined 07-12-2003
Posted on Friday, 02 March, 2007 - 01:59 pm:   

For some external funding, such as some of that from TfL, the council does have to spend the money by the end of the year to which it is allocated. This is still the general rule in national government, and I believe the health services

However, for its own budget, the Council has the option to carry funds forward, so there is no need to have a big spend up at the end of the year.

This has been the case for years, but there is a very persistent urban myth on this point - which is to some extent shared by some Council staff.

It is, of course, madness to create a peak of outdoor construction work in the late Winter and Spring when the weather is poor.

Gas and water works are the responsibility of the relevant companies, but they are required to restore the road to its original condition or face being charged. Lewisham does extract quite a bit of corrective work, or money from companies that don't meet their obligations. It is important to report shoddy reinstatement work. The Council has only so many people working on this area, but will pursue problems in my experience.
Joined 06-02-2007
Posted on Friday, 02 March, 2007 - 08:11 pm:   

Thanks to all who've responded...I also wondered why they have made the Stanstead Road end of St. Germans's Road [the same stretch of road on which they have put these two humps!]a red route area, when it is such a relatively traffic free road! Completely unnecessary...who on earth makes these decisions? And I agree with the sentiments re: the more urgent need for resurfacing many of the roads around here. Between between
h the speed bumps and the pot-holes, the suspension on our little old car our suspension has almost gone!
As to the fly-tipping, thanks for the information...I'll definitely be following it up.
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Saturday, 03 March, 2007 - 10:17 pm:   

Red routes are the responsibility of Transport for London (TfL).
Joined 06-02-2007
Posted on Monday, 12 March, 2007 - 06:56 pm:   

Just noticed today that new young trees have been planted along St. German's Road - on the Stanstead Road end...made me very happy, especially with Spring in the air!!! Big-up to Lewisham Council!
Joined 12-10-2006
Posted on Monday, 12 March, 2007 - 10:09 pm:   

Hope they did a better job than on Manor Mount and Dsvids Road. These were really badly staked and a couple have inevitably succombed to the attentions of passing cretinous youth.

I've had limited success in asking the council to come back and replaced them.
Joined 28-01-2004
Posted on Monday, 12 March, 2007 - 11:12 pm:   

FHS - I walk past those every day. I reckon those flowering cherries will be OK with a bit of careful pruning. They are already trying to grow back. I agree they weren't very well protected.

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