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East London Line to be run by the Chi...

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Sherwood
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 20 June, 2007 - 09:23 pm:   

I understand that the Chinese are going to run the new East London Line.

See this link for the details:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=462967&in_page_id=1770
Bigjulie
Joined 09-04-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 20 June, 2007 - 11:22 pm:   

This is a da*ly m*il link - Sherwood I am ashamed of you.
Read the article and realise your opening statement is inaccurate. You understand nothing.
The word "Chinese" appears in the first line only - errr da*ly m*il headline?
More importantly - what about Jemima's cat?
Les
Joined 28-01-2004
Posted on Thursday, 21 June, 2007 - 12:00 am:   

I love the Daily Mail - another 'oh my god the world is being taken over by foreigners, where will it ever end' implied story.

Anyone worried by this development should have a look at the MTR on

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTR

It makes DLR look like a toy railway. I know MTR well because many of the engineers involved in the Jubilee Line extension moved to Hong Kong after the extension finished, to work on the airport extension of MTR. It is by all reports high quality, reliable and cheap. Any one of those on the ELX would be a breath of fresh air. Daily Mail readers can relax.

Who exactly does Bob Crow (quoted in the Mail article) propose to run the new railway? His members are so reactionary they would strike at the mere thought of a train running on time.
Sherwood
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 21 June, 2007 - 11:11 am:   

OMG! Have I committed a faux pas?
I didn't realise the daily mail is a banned newspaper!

Would this link be politically acceptable?:
http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article2679869.ece

I thought Hong Kong was in China. Or is my geography lacking?
Haylands
Joined 29-09-2006
Posted on Thursday, 21 June, 2007 - 11:49 am:   

Not if you know your Empire, proper!
Brian
Joined 18-04-2005
Posted on Thursday, 21 June, 2007 - 12:08 pm:   

Hong Kong is a Special Economic Area under the general control of the PRC.
I believe the H Kong railway very well run. Would have no problem with them running the London trains. Also some of the modern railways in the PRC leave London standing. Shanghai to Pudong for example
Surely does not matter where they come from ( except Penge of course ) as long as the have a good track record
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Thursday, 21 June, 2007 - 08:41 pm:   

The Daily Mail, the fave paper of people in Bromley and Beckenham. Or am I being provocative again....

The Daily Mail is so reactionary that it makes you like and admire zealots such as Bob Crow.

Having worked in a job where the media had a big influence I came to detest this paper and the nonsense it peddled. I could no longer laught at it as Les can. I would have hated the Express as well but nobody reads this. That's not to say that the other papers are always correct, just that these ones are so dangerous. Particularly once you get South of Penge.
Sherwood
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 21 June, 2007 - 09:18 pm:   

OMG! The ELL will connect Forest Hill with Penge West!
Build the barricades now!
Bigjulie
Joined 09-04-2005
Posted on Friday, 22 June, 2007 - 01:00 pm:   

Forest Hill and Penge West have been connected by rail for many years.
Sherwood
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Friday, 22 June, 2007 - 02:55 pm:   

I never go in that direction. It is bad enough living on the wrong side of the tracks without going to Penge!
Haylands
Joined 29-09-2006
Posted on Friday, 22 June, 2007 - 04:09 pm:   

There is a Jewsons in Penge.
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Saturday, 23 June, 2007 - 05:44 pm:   

The Penge papers were based on Cobbs Department store in Sydenham. There used to be some lovely pubs in Maple road, and the market is OK. And it is not Bromley
Ooperlooper
Joined 28-06-2006
Posted on Saturday, 23 June, 2007 - 06:32 pm:   

Does anyone else pronounce Penge as in the 'mange' of 'mange-tout'?
Robwinton
Joined 07-06-2006
Posted on Saturday, 23 June, 2007 - 08:21 pm:   

no
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Sunday, 24 June, 2007 - 09:03 am:   

And St Reatham, and Bri (X) ton, and cla(p)ham, weren't we so funny in the late 80s

My mate in 1988 asked for a ticket to Pange, then when there was confusion Penggee (with a hard G). Perhaps almost 20 years later he is still trying to get out of London Bridge. Maybe there is an Ian Banks novel there.
Hilltopgeneral
Joined 24-03-2004
Posted on Sunday, 24 June, 2007 - 11:27 am:   

Sorry to disappoint BD, but Penge (along with a reasonable chunk of Sydenham) most definitely is Bromley, at least in terms of 'rendering unto Caesar...'

Quite how you could prefer one of that borough's grottiest corners is a little beyond me. Presumably it's because you haven't run into any M*il readers there yet?
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Sunday, 24 June, 2007 - 06:44 pm:   

Now I am getting paranoid that you and Ooperlooper are following me around. I doubt whether any part of SE26 is in the London Borough of Bromley but no doubt I'll be informed otherwise. Where the 'Weclome to Bromley' signs and you come out in Narnia surely this is no longer Sydenham. True Penge is, but rather a neglected part (and from my time opposing the multiplex planned for Crystal Palace an area that they would rather not be responsible for), but it is not BR1 (nor is St Mary's Cray and that certainly cannot be compared to BR1 in terms of demographics).
Interesting story (well at least I think so), BD was motorcycling one very cold day and the snow was falling in single crystals. He went left out of Lawrie Park and whoops motorcycle was sliding along the road. In the time he picked it up he saw a number of other accidents as unlike LBL, LBL hadn't gritted. Well it saved on council tax. Not that I would usually use that to demark between the boroughs.

Now are you simply being a little mischievious Hiltop or is there something more sinister to your postings?
Sherwood
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Sunday, 24 June, 2007 - 07:27 pm:   

You can definitely tell where the border is in the winter. One of my friends was driving along Kent House Road and lost traction just across the borough boundary because Bromley had not gritted.
Sherwood
Joined 30-03-2005
Posted on Sunday, 01 July, 2007 - 09:46 pm:   

Just to remind us that it was 10 years ago that Hong Kong was returned to the Chinese.

BBC link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6258156.stm