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Fire on the Southeastern Line - 23/05

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Ghis
Joined 02-01-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 01:47 pm:   

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6683641. stm

Looks like it will be fun to get home tonight
Ghis
Joined 02-01-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 02:16 pm:   

Meant to say Southern in the title
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 02:17 pm:   

trains do seem to be running from New Cross and New Cross Gate so if you can get the East London Line to there without too much upheaval you should be able to get the train from NXG.

On a smug note - so glad I cycle!
Ghis
Joined 02-01-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 02:35 pm:   

Bosco can I ask approximatly where from and to you cycle? I am changing jobs in 2 months (currenlty working a long notice period!) and I am looking at options to travel more efficiently from Blythe Hill to Mayfair. So far two wheels (scooter) seems to win.
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 03:10 pm:   

Ghis - I cycle from the Perry Vale end of Woolstone Road (if that means anything?) to the city (near Tower Hill) and it takes me between 35 and 45 minutes depending on how energetic I'm feeling. I know someone who cycles from more your neck of the woods (Brockley Rise) up to Mayfair - not sure how long it takes him but will ask.

Have to say, I cannot recommend cycling enough - so long as you ride in the knowledge that they are out to get you you should be safe enough - and of course, observe the golden rule - do not undertake buses or lorries because one day you'll get squished...
Ghis
Joined 02-01-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 03:40 pm:   

Thanks Bosco. It would be good to find out how long it takes him.
Elizabeth25
Joined 04-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 03:43 pm:   

Yes, the 40 bus to Dulwich Library. Tube to New Cross Gate and then to Forest Hill. I just got a text from someone who is currently on that route and recomends it. Or DLR to Lewisham and then bus to FH. Good luck everyone!
Ghis
Joined 02-01-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 04:26 pm:   

I am going to try the 171 or 172 bus from the strand to HOP but I guess it will be congested.
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 04:40 pm:   

or you could do train from Blackfriars to Crofton Park and walk from there.

Just spoke to my friend who works in Mayfair - the cycle takes about 45 minutes.
Roz
Joined 17-03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 04:41 pm:   

If I was trying to get home from central London I'd take the first train from Charing Cross to Lewisham and then catch the P4 from outside the station.
The trains are usually less crowded than from LB to FH and very fast.
Good luck getting home tonight!
Ghis
Joined 02-01-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 05:14 pm:   

Are they running Roz? I have just got that:

CHARING CROSS NATIONAL RAIL STATION: Due to a line side fire in the London Bridge area National Rail services are not serving Charing Cross National Rail station. Train services on Southern, South Eastern and First Capital connect are subject to short notice alterations and cancellations. Tickets are valid on London Underground and London Buses by any reasonable route. Tickets are valid on Docklands Light Railway between Lewisham and Canary Wharf. For further information on how services are running please contact National Rail Enquiries on 08457 48 49 50 or visit www.nationalrail.co.uk
Bosco
Joined 16-07-2004
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 05:19 pm:   

Victoria has closed due to overcrowding and apparently Blackfriars is absolutely rammed aswell. Reckon either bus from town, DLR to Lewisham and bus from there or tube to Brixton and P4 to HOP is the best bet - good luck!
Ghis
Joined 02-01-2007
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 05:26 pm:   

Cab sharing from the strand anyone? Last resource, I think for me is going to be the 176 from the strand as I doubt the 172 and 171 will be able to get anywhere. Traffic must be manic round the fire area with the road closures.
Gemma
Joined 05-11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 - 07:50 pm:   

Just so everyone knows we may have train problems tommorow see below from the Southern website

WE HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THE LONDON FIRE BRIGADE HAVE DECLARED A 24 HOUR 200 METRE EXCLUSION ZONE AROUND THE SITE OF THE FIRE, WITH EFFECT FROM 16.30 TODAY. THIS MEANS THAT THERE WILL BE NO TRAIN SERVICES BETWEEN LONDON BRIDGE AND NEW CROSS GATE/PECKHAM RYE THROUGHOUT TOMORROW MORNING'S PEAK PERIOD.

http://www.southernrailway.com/main.php?page_id=5
Elizabeth25
Joined 04-03-2005
Posted on Thursday, 24 May, 2007 - 08:35 am:   

However, the trains were running this morning. One positive note.
Les
Joined 28-01-2004
Posted on Thursday, 24 May, 2007 - 11:18 am:   

For info - I took the 363 from Wood Vale to Elephant & Castle (Northern & Bakerloo) at 7.30 this morning, assuming the trains would be U/S, and the journey was actually quite civilised. I'm sure it would be even better if I could get up earlier. A good alternative option.
Johnc
Joined 09-01-2007
Posted on Thursday, 24 May, 2007 - 12:13 pm:   

I regularly take the 363's sister bus the 63 from Honor Oak Cemetery up to Blackfriars where I now work and previously to Kings Cross. It runs alongside the 197 for a short time when it hits Peckham, so its fairly straightforward, albeit a bit time consuming, to travel from Croydon, Norwood Junction, Penge, Sydenham, Forest Hill, to central London with just a single change of bus.
Ghis
Joined 02-01-2007
Posted on Thursday, 24 May, 2007 - 01:04 pm:   

Got the 172 from Aldwych last night all the way to Brockley rise. Took about 1h20 but I had a nice seat and a nice view at the top at the front. It allowed me to discover quote a lot of New Cross Gate and Brockley I did not know. It is nice to find alternatives to the usual journey.
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Sunday, 27 May, 2007 - 06:11 pm:   

Bendy buses (eg the 63) are the spawn of the devil. Would say bring back the routemaster (the last in South East London was the number 12) but they churned out loads of particultes. The bendy buses block box junctions, traffic lights and are a nightmare for cyclists. Apart from bendy buses I had a rather good journey home on Wednesday. I don't just rant on this site, have written to Ken about this but he seems to quite like them. Oh and they also take up two bus stops, a nightmare at the Elephant and Castle I'll have you know. And a final moan, they should not have split the 63 into two.
Les
Joined 28-01-2004
Posted on Sunday, 27 May, 2007 - 10:55 pm:   

BD - I'm sure the 63 isn't bendy in the conventional sense - never seen them on that route. Did you mean the 12? Anyways I can't remember the justification for bendy buses over normal double-deckers, I think it was about boarding time and disabled access, but most journeys I've been on them, the doors have coincided with some random bit of street clutter (I couldn't get a pushchair on) and it seems an open invitation for a free ride. I agree not a good solution for congested, space-constrained London.
Nevermodern
Joined 09-02-2007
Posted on Monday, 28 May, 2007 - 10:39 am:   

The amount of non-payment on bendy buses is massive, cos, as you say, Les, you can just leap on the non-driver door without any hassle. The buses just don't fit in London's funny shaped, narrow, unplanned streets.

Plus, London double-deckers are famous the world over.

As you can tell, I'm not a bendy bus fan :)
Ghis
Joined 02-01-2007
Posted on Monday, 28 May, 2007 - 04:03 pm:   

I miss the 12 routemaster. It was my daily commute to central London when I lived near Peckam Rye Park.
Baggydave
Joined 19-05-2004
Posted on Monday, 28 May, 2007 - 06:33 pm:   

Apologies for getting my 12 and 63 mixed up, trying to get two messages out on the same thread!

Apparently there are huge snatch squads to nab non-payers on the bb's - including British Transport Police (or maybe the Met).

Bendy buses seem to work better overseas where the roads are laid out better and there is also an honnesty culture (shame this never caught on in the UK, perhaps because we never started this way)