I accept maybe I called at a bad or unusual time re bad language. I was in the back bar , maybe that is worse. Not sure what is the old Public rather than saloon or snug.
Re CAMERA I apologise if I have upset anyone. I have been a member since it started but avoid all meetings as usually they are zealots who think every change is bad. They seem to want pubs as they were in say 1965 , in a time warp. The reason keg and lager took of when they did was because many landlords in 50's and 60's had no idea on how to look after real ale. Fortunately the pubs that do still serve real ale normally look after it well.