[quote=Baboonery]
[quote=Toffeejim]
It is still utter nonsense. Crowd estimates, especially for outside events (i.e. those not contained by stadia) are often wildly inaccurate and estimates made by police are no exception to this rule. To place into perspective how unlikely this figure is it is the equivalent of 9 out of every 10 people from the entire Mersey metropolitan area - not just the city of Liverpool - coming out onto the route.
There is a more telling point here though. You are prepared to be credulous about this unlikely estimate because (i) you want it to be so: you want to believe that your team are so loved that an improbably large amount of people come out to show their support for them; (ii) an 'authority', a part of the establishment, tells you that it is so. Contrast this, if you will, to your attitude to those who practice religion. They want and believe things to be true too. But you say that their reliance on belief, rather than reliance on logic and probability, is 'worshipping at the temple of stupidity'.
So, just to be clear: at which temple do you worship?
Only just over half, actually. Not nine in ten. An example of people exaggerating because they 'want to believe' for you, there.
I don't 'want and believe' something to be true, I'm taking the word of the people who are paid to tell us about it. If you're making a tenuous comparison with religion, I'd be saying that there had been two million people there, even though nobody saw anyone there. Either way, there were loads. If they'd said it was nine people or three million I wouldn't have believed them. Do you see?
Were you there? I was, along with all my friends from those quaint little fjord-side hamlets of Walton, Bootle, Speke and Oxton. I don't think it's an unlikely estimate at all. Meanwhile, "The People's Club" were offering a free case of Chang to anyone who bought a half season ticket.
The only person saying it's an unlikely estimate is you. The only person making a tenuous comparison with believing in a sky fairy is you. Funny, that.
Anyway, we're inviting the wrath of baggydave for daring to support clubs from the city we were born in, not the non-descript but generally agreeable south-London suburb in which we've both ended up, so I suggest we move on.
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