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Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
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NewForester


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04-11-2009 06:42 PM

mattfh wrote:
Bear in mind the 17:35 train could be one of the 2 less trains per hour in the evening peak running to Forest Hill from December when our timetable changes...


The services being cut this December are the Charing Cross Services (to Caterham)

The trains being cut in May 2010 are:

southernrailway.com wrote:
Date: 21 Oct 2009
What?s happening and why?
The opening of the East London Line with the extensions to Dalston, Crystal Palace and West Croydon together with Southern services will provide a significant overall increase in capacity along the New Cross Gate ? Sydenham train route. The number of trains will double from six trains per hour to 12 trains per hour in the off peak and evening with even more trains in the morning peak.

This will necessitate changes to Southern services operating in the South London area as well as some minor changes to mainline services as a consequence. Essentially, we will share tracks and platforms along the route and therefore we must amend our services accordingly.

What does this mean for Southern services to and from London Bridge?
There will still be six Southern trains from Sydenham to New Cross Gate into London Bridge per hour in the morning peak.

There will be four Southern trains per hour to and from London Bridge in the off peak.

In the evening peak from London Bridge some trains will no longer call at New Cross Gate to Sydenham inclusive. This is because trains from London Bridge to West Croydon, Sutton and Epsom (which currently call at New Cross Gate to Sydenham) must be diverted to run fast to Croydon to accommodate new East London line trains. However, the Southern trains that will call from New Cross Gate to Sydenham trains from London Bridge will run no further than Croydon between 1700 and 1900. This means that there should be a better distribution of passengers, as those heading for stations beyond Croydon will switch to the ?fast? trains rather than using stopping services to New Cross Gate ? Sydenham as is the case now.

The table below shows the current departure times of trains from London Bridge to stations from New Cross Gate to Sydenham between 1700 and 1900 and the planned options for passengers from May 2010.

Code:
Currently - 1705  Plan from May 2010 - 1705
Currently - 1719                               diverted to ?fast? lines
Currently - 1725                               1721
Currently - 1735                               1736
Currently - 1751                               diverted to ?fast? lines
Currently - 1755                               1753
Currently - 1805                               1805
Currently - 1820                               diverted to ?fast? lines
Currently - 1824                               1821
Currently - 1834                               1836
Currently - 1851                               1851

The diverted trains will be fast to Norwood Junction. It MAY be possible to catch a fast train to Norwood Junction and then back on the ELL from West Croydon. That would (of course) require a Zone 4 travelcard.


There is nothing on Southern's website about the loss of Charing Cross services, but after a lot of digging, I have found that the proposed cessation of Charing Cross services was open for public consultation between 8th and 18th September on National Rail's website. The relevant documents can be found here. In their application Southern claim that they "consulted with a wide range of stakeholders potentially affected by the timetable change". I wonder who they asked? It is intended that the proposed supplemental agreement would take effect on the Principal Timetable Change Date ? 13 December 2009 and will expire on 23 May 2010.

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RE: Overcrowding Consultation - BarCar - 03-10-2008, 08:15 AM
RE: Trains to London Bridge - Redalways - 18-11-2008, 01:38 PM
RE: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak - NewForester - 04-11-2009 06:42 PM
Train services from Forest Hill - michael - 01-04-2008, 04:55 PM
RE: Train services from Forest Hill - Ghis - 01-04-2008, 05:10 PM
RE: Train services from Forest Hill - SSR - 09-04-2008, 09:44 AM
RE: Train services from Forest Hill - loca - 17-04-2008, 09:02 PM
RE: Train services from Forest Hill - loca - 17-04-2008, 09:42 PM
Reduced trains in the evening? - Gep - 27-01-2009, 09:38 PM
Snow disruption - michael - 02-02-2009, 09:47 AM
More Direct Trains to Charing X - Baumer - 23-02-2009, 10:49 AM
Rail Ticket Refunds - michael - 11-03-2009, 11:55 PM
Train disruption this evening - roz - 29-06-2009, 11:21 PM
RAIL MEETING TONIGHT - nasaroc - 17-09-2009, 07:09 AM
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ELL journey times - Horseface - 22-11-2009, 01:55 PM
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