He he. Okay, so it's just a quiet pub free from overly misbehaving kids (or arguably misbehaving parents who let their kids run riot) that you're after, Hilltop.

But my gripe is with the attitude of some who think that there's some sort of need for the type of 'adult pubs' that I describe, and in particular I'm annoyed local authorities using licencing to ban kids from pubs after a certain time (usually 9pm).

By banning kids in this way, they are encouraging excessive drinking and its associated problems rather than encouraging sensible drinking.