It is unbelievable that some people think that 75 years of occupation is acceptable the burial plots achieved by this destruction are only a short term fix. Where next will be have to site more burial plots.
In addition it is a shame the mediator has failed to remove or edit the comments made that clearly show malice and small minded sniping very sad!
The land in question was designated burial land long before you ever showed up here. The Council are using this land and reclaiming land that it allowed to become overgrown in the two cemeteries for new burials. They are also planning to re-use graves that are 75+ years old, now in my book that's not a bad thing.
samuelsen, even though I think original plans should not dictate future purpose, I think you are confusing different areas. Area B, the area in question, has never been burial space. It was ancient woodland, farmland, a fireworks factory, which then was repurposed to produce munitions in wartime I believe, then a plant nursery, now a meadow. So, of all the things it could be designated, a cemetery is not one of them based on prior usage.
The council are also being disingenuous re the 75 year reuse concept. They do not have legal recourse to use the legislation that allows for this elsewhere and their own documents acknowledge this. Am afraid that unless this is resolved soon, and that isn't likely given that no Lords time has been allocated for this, then any talk of a sustainable burial strategy is pure pretence.
This post was last modified: 27-05-2017 03:54 PM by lacb.
What is the best use for the land right now? Burial on 'Area B' has a value but it comes at a high price - the loss of Honor Oak Nature Corridor land right next to the train station.
Lewis Schaffer
Friends of Camberwell Cemeteries / Save Southwark Woods campaign
07886504221 / savesouthwarkwoods@gmail.com / http://www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk
Last call to object to Southwark using more land for burial. There are planning applications to turn the three acres of land behind the hoardings next to the Honor Oak Park station into 1000 plots with not one tree among them.
You have passed it area - at the entrance to the Rec and the Allotments. It would be a waste to use it as burial plots. And Lewisham people can object.
All you have to do is write "I obect to using this land for burial plots."
Planning application for the Old Nursery site will be debated (or reviewed or whatever they do) on June 15, Thursday. Southwark has given us less than two weeks' notice.
We are about to lose 3 acres of Honor Oak Nature Corridor land to rows of mown graves. Right next to HOP Station. This isn't about NIMBY, it is about NIMFY - not in my front yard.
They aren't going to stop. Here, on One Tree Hill, in the Old Cemetery... then they will start digging up the old graves and destroying the memorials.
Here are some new photos. Very few people have actually seen Area B - It's hiddent by Southwark behind hoardings. See the link and photos attached from today. I was there today and it is very beautiful, even on a rainy day.
I believe you'll find that ONLY one representative can speak for 5-10 mins, multiple speakers are NOT allowed at a planning meeting.
Tell Southwark Council that 1,000 burial plots are essential to enable local burials to continue. Would you rather this rather than Honor Oak Rec being used for new burials. As they say, the CHOICE is yours.
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Samuelson - You want to play residents against each other - that is what the Council does.
"We take the Old Nursery Site or we take the Rec. Up to you."
That is how you got the phoney 'consultation' for the Rec through. That is what lead to the devastation we see now - rows of graves coming to scar One Tree Hill and acres of woods cut down in the Old Cemetery.
Just admit you want burial at all costs, even it means cutting down trees, digging up the dead, or putting graves where children play sport, orobliterating a lovely meadow - see photo.
Firstly I did not say, We take the Old Nursery Site or we take the Rec. Up to you, DON't mis-quote ME.
Secondly I am offering residents a choice, an alternative, either 1,000 burial plots to enable local burials to continue or Would you rather Honor Oak Rec being used for new burials. It really is a simple choice, you do not speak for the community and neither do I. I am expressing an opposing opinion to yours. You want NO burials at any cost and the wilding of the cemeteries so they become overgrown wildernesses and eventually closed to everyone. I seek to have local burials continue, so people have a local place to grieve and remember.
So the 1000 plots will cope with around 18 months of predicted deaths in the Lewisham area. Then what? I am sure some clever reader can work out the area needed in the next 75 years. How many acres of land do we convert to cemeteries.
So to be able to grieve locally how much are you prepared to pay and not jyst money?
Eventually, like it or not (and I'd much prefer not) the rec will become a burial ground, However the work being undertaken by Southwark, i.e clearing scrub land in both the cemeteries will delay this happening.
Who actually owns the land? Southwark Council I'm assuming. So it's public land. What agreement if any does Camberwell Cemetery have with them? Do they have any legal entitlement to it? Or is it just the council giving it to them.
If you check, I believe you'll find the land was originally purchased for burial, but has been used as a sports rec ground until such time its requirement comes to fruition.
Lewis - what you want, and lets be frank, is NO burials in either Camberwell Old or New cemeteries. So where are we supposed to bury locally family and friends who have died??????????????????????????????
The Labour-controlled Southwark Council is willing to eliminate sports fields at the Rec, clear woods on One Tree Hill, build onto the Honor Oak Nature Corridor, and dig up the dead and destroy their memorials in both cemeteries to provide burial for a small group of people.
The real question is why do they need to be buried in Central London? Secondly, on public land?
Surely if the desire is so great to have them in Central London why don't people buy private land and designate it as burial sites? The church surely can raise the funds to purchase central London Real estate to accommodate this.