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| shzl400 
 
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| 09-05-2013 07:41 PM 
 
Agreed with Robin - I for the subject, me for the object of the sentence.  I also use Rshdunlop's easy method of checking for the correct 'I' or 'me' usage.    Do they still teach this stuff in schools today?
 More annoying is the use of 'myself' instead of 'me'.  Surely that's far more pretentious and self-important. How typical of a politician!
 
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| robin orton 
 
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| 30-05-2013 09:03 AM 
 
The received pronunciation of 'centenary' seems for some reason to be changing from 'sen -TEEN- ary' to 'sen -TENN- ary.' Two instances  noticed on Radio 4 recently.
 
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| robin orton 
 
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| 30-05-2013 11:03 AM 
 
To continue this interesting conversation with myself, perhaps, as the OED suggests, the new pronunciation is based on an analogy with 'centennium', 'millennium', 'millennial'. Their etymology is in fact different from that of  'centenary' - hence the  double ns, which automatically shorten the preceding vowel.
 
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| Southlonder 
 
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| ringingcod 
 
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| 04-06-2013 09:44 AM 
 
DS = darling son, as used on Mumsnet and the like. There's a whole raft of exciting abbreviations out there. We need more of them on here.
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| rshdunlop 
 
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| 04-06-2013 12:14 PM 
 
Why do we need those abbreviations on here? I find them a bit grating and fey, myself. 'Darling Son'. Eew. By the time you've hit the shift key to type DS, you may as well just type 'son'. Keep 'em on Mumsnet, I say.
 
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| ringingcod 
 
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| 04-06-2013 12:27 PM 
 
No no - not those ones - that was just an example of where they've been listed. There's obviously scope for abbreviations that cover regular topics: Sainsburys in, er, HOP; Southern trains; empty shops; dog poo. I don't know. I wasn't being entirely serious (which has got me in trouble with the admins before).
 
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| rshdunlop 
 
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| 04-06-2013 01:42 PM 
 
Well, phew, because those Mumsnet ones are vomit-inducing.
 
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| lacb 
 
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| 04-06-2013 02:03 PM 
 
 DS = darling son, as used on Mumsnet and the like. There's a whole raft of exciting abbreviations out there. We need more of them on here.
 Mumsnet list
 
ROFLMAO - some of those Mumsnet abbreviations are really, how shall I put it, special.  Thanks for sharing ringingcod.
 
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| ringingcod 
 
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| 04-06-2013 03:55 PM 
 
Pleasure.
 DS could be used for canine excrement.
 
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| Perryman 
 
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| 04-06-2013 04:38 PM 
 
I thought DS was a term of endearment based on the games device the child was addicted to. "Xbox 360 is in the living-room; DS is in her bedroom and Ipod Touch has locked herself in the bathroom again."
 
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| MightyMouse 
 
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| 04-06-2013 05:54 PM 
 
*Why* would you ever need to tell anyone you were "nursing at keyboard"? 
 One for STFU Parents, I reckon. (There's an acronym to savour.)
 
 As for the DS, I had a little groan when I saw it; I'm familiar with it from elsewhere.
 
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| lacb 
 
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| 04-06-2013 06:08 PM 
 
Had a particular chuckle at DTD.  Document Type Definitions will never be quite so dull again.
 
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| robin orton 
 
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| 06-06-2013 01:33 PM 
 
 The received pronunciation of 'centenary' seems for some reason to be changing from 'sen -TEEN- ary' to 'sen -TENN- ary.' 
Another possible explanation is perhaps that there seems to be a general trend in the pronunciation of words which come from (or sound as if they come from) Latin as if they were still in Latin,  rather than having become English. Three further examples noted today on Radio 4: 'supervizzary','eviskerate' and 'Lithooaynia'. (At least it's not 'Lithooahnia').
 
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| lacb 
 
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| 06-06-2013 03:38 PM 
 
Not sure about the Latin explanation.  What would be the correct pronunciation in Latin?  No definitive answer IMO.
 I think sen-TENN-ary is more in line with the US mode.  Who to say which is right as both sides of the pond would probably agree on centennial.
 
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| robin orton 
 
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| 15-06-2013 08:06 PM 
 
Three separate posts here with the (American) 'driver's licence' (but at least it's 'licence' rather than 'license') rather than the (British) 'driving licence'. Interesting.
 
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| nottinghillbilly 
 
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| sandy 
 
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| 07-08-2013 06:43 PM 
 
Did we really need  'chavvy' in the description?
 
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| Bcm 
 
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| 07-08-2013 09:35 PM 
 
Yep, it's actually very descriptive.
 
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| robin orton 
 
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| 07-08-2013 09:58 PM 
 
Not descriptive at all - what does it add to 'Caucasian, blue/grey tracksuit and long greasy hair'? - but insulting and cruel.
 
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