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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I really can't understand why it is in the Councils interests to be so blatantly one sided when it is going to end up potentially calling the accuracy and honesty of the whole thing into question? Wel... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Interestingly a flyer being handed out at the station tonight said that the Mayor would also be at the Station tomorrow evening (between 5.30 and 6.00pm) with train company representatives to talk abo... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Forresters
As with all planning matters there is a degree of interpretation.
It is 'technically' correct that housing is not possible on the Willow Way site (i.e. contrary to planning policy), bu... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Related to the Mayors recent decision being more political than based on fact and consideration I don't think the Mayor is worried whether the pools site is sold and what for at the moment. He only h... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Max
It may be blindingly obvious to you but can you explain what you mean about cross subsidising as I don't understand?
The Council say they only have Willow Way to offer at the moment? Who kno... |
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08-02-2009, 11:22 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Quote: "Yes I went for Option 1 as only realistic option. Let us face up to it 2 is a pipedream"
Brian
Option 1 is a pipe dream as it requires a developer to build it who is willing to build a poo... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Lets just be realistic about this, all the options have some aspect of undeliverability about them, none of them are clear cut.
Option 1 can't be delivered until the market/economy completely chang... |
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08-02-2009, 11:19 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Max, I see what you mean. I think they have not assumed they need Willow Way to cross subsidise Option 1 because in theory it may not need it financially (if there were developers to do it, at least) ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I understand that there are groups out there who want to lose the pool frontage and other groups who want to keep it. Both vociferous in their opinions and ready to fight for what they believe.
Ho... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Eddy, Option 3 has around 60 flats and that is around the number that it would appear is needed to cross subsidise the funding gap in the pools (any option).
The park next door is already included... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I don't think that we as residents can resolve the delivery of option 2, mostly because we don't have all the information and also because we don't know what other issues are influencing it.
Howeve... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| In response to Roz's comment about The Bridge:
[i]"Pools can work well in 'side streets and light industrial locations, ie The Bridge. They may not be pretty but they do the job."[/i]
I wouldn't... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| They didn't ever tell us if the architects were told of the budget or asked to work to one. But I suspect not.
The issue of affordability was given by the Mayor as one of the key reasons for the po... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I may have been a bit previous. I think everyone in the 3 wards should have had a questionnaire by the end of today? Apparently it will also be online (from tomorrow?) and as soon as I find out about ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| To the various people who seem to think that a pool on Willow Way is easy to deliver.
The relocation of the pools site to Willow Way would be contrary to the Local Plan and Government Planning guid... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Reply to Robin Orton
I realise your question was probably rhetorical but I will have a go anyway!
I think the answer is because if you can't change the use (as the Council assumed) then for the pu... |
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18-03-2009, 03:02 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Gaz, great questions (yes, changing the pool site to housing will require a change of use and this is by no means a given, yes as far as I understand it Willow Way is not a defined Town Centre site, y... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I fully realise that the Mayor actually has to make that decision but in the meantime and just because it is even an option in the report
HOOORRRAAAYYYYYY! :thumbsup: |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| As far as I am aware Michael is right and the Council are currently working on the appointment of Architects to take the project forward to planning.
The next meeting of the stakeholder group has ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| As everyone in the Forest Hill, Perry Vale and Sydenham Wards should now have received a copy of the Council's consultation questionnaire on the pools I think it is worth noting the concerns I have ab... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| In response to Roz's comments:
[i]"We need to see what precisely is being proposed for Willow Way before dismissing it out of hand. [u]The question to be asked is which site can provide the better fa... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Baboonery
Sorry, but I have been trying to just let this one pass but it is really bugging me.
When did the public reject Dartmouth Road as the site for the pools last year? I went to the consultati... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Rosemary
Noone is saying that a pool on Willow Way cannot be achieved. Simply that it is not as in their control as they imply. I see no point in their getting people to support an option for a new ... |
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27-04-2009, 10:39 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| From the results I have seen the outcome is not that clear cut.
Some groups (telephone, online, postal, focus groups) preferred one to the other. E.g. telephone voters slight preference for option ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The SLP article just isn't really clear what it is saying.
As far as I understand it Option 3 is the same as option 1 but sooner i.e. modern newbuild pool facilitites but the retention of the fron... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Steve B
When the summary consultation results were presented it was made clear that because a teaching pool was in the lowest band it did not mean that it was least wanted.
They attribute this to... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Sydenhamcentral
None of us know exactly what it will be like but the closest we have is the Allies and Morrison proposals undertaken earlier in the year. This is what the option 1 and option 3 sche... |
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17-07-2009, 12:24 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| We have been assured that a decision has been made, and given how Officers were with previous decisions there won't be any swaying without specific instruction from the Mayor. I really hope not anyway... |
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14-09-2009, 11:12 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| There was a stakeholder meeting on Monday night and the officers confirmed the programme they are working to on the pools and what they have been doing over the summer. They are quite far advanced on... |
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01-10-2009, 09:32 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Interesting bit of analysis Foresters
The dates in the Feb 09 report were put together by Council Officers to try and demonstrate why they didn't want a design competition. Their no competition pr... |
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08-10-2009, 08:30 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| At the end of November we understand that the Council will be inviting the project stakeholders and local reps to meet the new architects and design team for the Pools Project. We are hoping that thi... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Glad to see we have the biggest thread.
Is this the biggest thread ever on the forum? |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| See poster about the consultation......
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The Council have now announced the dates for the forthcoming consultation on the pools scheme, prior to their submission of a planning application in April/May this year. They have asked the stakehol... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Mayor Steve, no offence intended.
Simply, it is frustrating that the Labour party are allowed to use an out of date image of the scheme and put it in the public realm when the stakeholder group are... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I think the way the pools proposal is going to work is that there should be no 'net loss' of open space in the new scheme from the current pocket park.
The last set of plans I saw showed a landscap... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Yes, I have that concern to. I think to some extent some blocking of the frontage is inevitable to fit the scheme but the scale of the block next to the frontage does seem to have grown recently and ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| At the pools stakeholder meeting last night the architects presented their most recent set of scheme proposals for the site.
These have begun to address many of the concerns that have been raised ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Anyone who wants to see an image of the pools frontage (and an option that has need discarded as far as I know) should look on the Labour Party leaflet that was delivered over the weekend. We got one ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Perryman - I think two lifeguards will definitely be needed and it is noticeable at the Bridge when I have been their recently that they do always seem to have two lifeguards on duty. But this has so... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Good luck Michael but I don't think you will get to discuss both versions. The image they used was from an option being considered back in January and was discarded I think because however it may look... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I imagine the Labour Party will be one of the many telling us "that it was them that did it".
I will be interested to hear peoples view on the exhibition material. I am generally impressed and thi... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I have just noticed that the exhibition boards say "In july 2009 the Council approved a new proposal by Allies and Morrison Architects for he redevelopment that includes the retention and integration ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| The Sauna/Steam room is not something I have seen on any plans - although I haven't had long enough to look at every detail ;-).
Perhaps someone who goes along to the consultation can ask about thi... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| No, I don't think it is too much to ask?
Has anyone who has been to the consultation been able to discuss this with them? |
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26-03-2010, 08:58 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I could be wrong but I think Saturday is the last day? At the station 10-3pm? |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Michael
what I am interested in is whether they will make a pre election commitment to the project. If they won't then we can read what we choose into that? |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I wondered whether anyone has tabled a question for the Forest Hill/Sydenham hustings on Thursday evening at Sydenham school about the pools?
See local elections section..... http://foresthillsocie... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Just in time for an election! |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Just in case it is not clear from the Lewisham website [b]the closing date for the consultation on the pools planning application formally ends on the 2nd June [/b]although generally the planning auth... |
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