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  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Pool pragmatism

I think a lot of us don't believe that the decision is final. We don't believe ethat the right decision has been made, and as the council are public servants, if the majority of people dissagree then ...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 24-03-2008, 01:47 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Pool pragmatism

English Hertitage had this to say about the pools: They (Forest Hill Pools) are of interest in that they retain their original pools, and ancillary structures, such as ticket offices and laundry ma...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 26-03-2008, 11:20 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Pool pragmatism

It appears we don't like the building at Downham and that we want something better like the Laban centre. In February (according to Lewishams own website) it was going to cost ?5 million to refurbi...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 26-03-2008, 04:39 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

"There are many links in the chain which could affect whether we end up with a good building or a bad building. One important link depends on how committed the architects are to designing a pool with ...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 02-04-2008, 05:41 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I agree with Tim about using parts of the old pools stuck onto a new brick box pool and flats to try to appease those who like the current building facades. We don't want to end up with some corpor...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 09-06-2008, 06:05 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I don't think the buildings are ugly. They have been woefully neglected. [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/leenewham/2558473764_76c00eb77f.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/album...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 04-07-2008, 10:11 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Images of the proposals to replace the pools are on the lewisham website. Or you can see them and the link to the council website here: www.poolingtogether.blogspot.com The words "boring, bl...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 14-07-2008, 06:50 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

The flats wont pay for anything if you cant sell them. All the new flat schemes in the area are struggling to sell.
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 15-07-2008, 10:21 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

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sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 15-07-2008, 12:48 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Options 2 and 3 are horrible. Have a look at the more detailed plans via the links posted above. It's a shame that the architects involved were not allowed to even contemplate keeping the facades o...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 16-07-2008, 12:16 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Sounds like a reasonable, commons sense solution to me. Lets get on with it. Everyone wins.
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 08-09-2008, 12:01 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Why didn't the council give an open brief to architectural firms in the first place like Southwark have with Camberwell pools so we either get a refurbishment option, exciting architectural replacemen...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 10-09-2008, 10:08 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

RE: keeping buildings because they are old. I don't think anyone wants to keep it because it's old. They want to keep it because it's interesting and helps define the area. Euston Station was po...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 21-07-2008, 02:33 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Period property is worth more than new builds and has risen by 60% since 2002. Victorian flats and houses are the most popular type of housing in the UK. The facades of these buildings would make wond...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 23-07-2008, 07:12 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

St Pancreas was a 'clapped out old building' given a new lease of life. Lots of old buildings have including the Kentish Town Pools in North London. The Horniman has a modern extension which contrasts...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 20-08-2008, 11:58 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Not sure how you managed to almost click on that Roz, the movies on the first page via the link...but anyway. The council did screw up the consultation about the pools options. English Heritage...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 30-08-2008, 01:33 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Just out of interest, is the max that calls Louise house and the pools "unremarkable" and wants them pulled down/delisted the same Max that said on video that to demolish the pools is "a crime agains...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 10-09-2008, 10:48 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I totally agree with you Nasaroc. It should have been done in the first place, although for some reason the council said it 'wasn't a big enough project'. This has been proved to be wrong. Conta...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 30-09-2008, 02:32 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

MAX WROTE: "Because the petition wants to retain only the frontage and demolish the pools anyway and as this is a departure from the Council's plan it means delays in reproviding a working pool and as...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 04-09-2008, 11:19 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I wrote to EH asking them to consider listing the pools or louise house. I presume many others did too, as is their free will to do so. English Heritage choose to list once something has been brought ...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 07-09-2008, 01:40 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: []

Regarding design competitions, I remember the guy from the council saying that no-one would be interested in such a small fee for the pools for a design competition. However, this is clearly not th...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 10-09-2008, 10:41 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

This is how Southwark council dealt with their victorian pools in Camberwell: Camberwell Baths development makes a splash Published on: 20/6/2008 Ref: 5757 Southwark today announced that it ha...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 10-09-2008, 12:27 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I hope the 7.5 million is spent on the pools in Forest Hill. I hope Michaels comment above isn't interpreted that anyone from any area, Sydenham included, would try to stop development in Forest Hill ...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 17-09-2008, 01:51 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

It is my understanding that design competitions are free. I'm not sure why Lewisham Council think they are too expensive. Surely getting innovative, costed design by pitching one firm against ano...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 11-09-2008, 11:13 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Brilliant news. Congratulations to all involved. I think it sounds like agreat solution to all involved. One thing though, just what is the building behind the facade going to look like? I haven't ...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 17-07-2009, 10:27 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I think Tim deserves an award for his hard work in saving what will be a great local asset. If anyone thinks that the pool would have been built lby now if the current buildings had been saved, the...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 04-02-2009, 01:37 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Thanks Satchers. Shame about the procurement. Procurement is great for buying paperclips but not for engaging the services of a creative agency whether it be design, architecture or whatever. Why c...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 17-07-2009, 04:37 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Ohh, they are good. I remember the plans for the Kentish Town baths, what they have on the website looks great. Good choice Lewisham, good choice!
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 04-11-2009, 08:31 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I think it's rather handsome. I like the contrast between new and old. Unlike many here I think it's better to make it even more evident rather than trying to camouflage it with terracotta tiles, but ...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 12-05-2010, 06:24 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Abbreviations also DMM (or should it be dmm?). ;-)
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 13-05-2010, 12:47 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I don't think caps type on the side of a building the signage is 'shouty'. THIS IS SHOUTY WHEN USED IN A SENTENCE. But on a building? Actually, you have hit a raw nerve there Robin. It drives me mad w...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 13-05-2010, 10:42 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Nope...I'll leave you to work out what DMM means. :-) I like the pools, I wouldn't change it to be honest. Showing it around the office where I work with other designers and architects it gets a...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 13-05-2010, 01:34 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pools

Yep, they look great tim, really good. It's nice that we are starting to get some proper architecture here rather than that cheap, ill considered, poorly finished, non-design, rubbish stuff on Kirkdal...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 04-08-2010, 03:19 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pools

Just wait till they put the signage up though Robin ;-) hehehehe
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 13-02-2012, 05:46 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pools

Forest Hill will now have a fantastic new pools facility plus a streetscape to be proud of. If the pools & Louise House had been knocked down I doubt if the regeneration that is happening in Dartmouth...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 07-06-2012, 11:33 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pools

Why do you think the new pools would have been beautiful? Lewisham isn't, Wavelengths isn't, The Bridge isn't, Downham isn't. There was no design, they were going to demolish Forest Hill pools with...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 09-06-2012, 11:26 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pools

I didn't do Latin as I only went to a comprehensive. I trust your post is satire sir, although it goes over my head. I'm more of a Two Ronnies fan rather than Hinge & Bracket. ;-)
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 24-06-2012, 09:11 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pools

Or perhaps "silva tumulosus lacus"!
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 24-06-2012, 09:40 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pools

Well, some people have got into a 'right lather' over the pools so I'd have thought taking some soap in to the pools would be entirely appropriate.
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 25-06-2012, 12:52 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pools

I'm not a fan of the sign, the wave bit is clumsy and unnecessary. But there is nothing wrong with capital letters on buildings. Why do you think it's noisy and agressive Robin? Lots of shops, pubs an...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,659 24-06-2012, 07:32 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Central
Post: RE: Forest Hill Central

I asked various local estate agents what people wanted. They all said the same thing: 2 bed, outside space if possible, below the 250,000 stamp duty threshold and that 1 bed flats are not sellin...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 289 274,078 24-08-2008, 12:22 PM
  Thread: The Capitol to close
Post: RE: Capitol to close

Picturehouse is to run it as a cinema with some theatre performances with 2 screens and a bar with tapas and small plates aka the Electric Cinema in Notting Hill, with a mix of mainstream and art hous...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 238 245,588 14-07-2014, 10:59 AM
  Thread: Shops, pubs, restaurants, etc
Post: RE: Shopping

RS DUNLOP: Nearest fishmongers to Forest Hill (depending which part of FH you are in) is Billings on Sydenham Road, near the junction with Fairlawn Park. You mean with Newlands Park. Fairlawn Park is...
sydenhamcentral Wider Topics 301 215,106 24-03-2013, 06:17 PM
  Thread: Farmers' market in the Horniman Gardens
Post: RE: Farmers' market in the Horniman Gardens

We made one of our regular aunts up the market last Saturday only to find it was shutting early. We went to the pools in the morning, had breakfast in a local cafe, bought some things in local sho...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 218 183,431 26-11-2013, 01:35 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pool
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool

It would be worth checking to see if the council are getting any grants for the new building. There is pressure on councils to provide new housing. The Eu give out grants for new builds but not for co...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 153 170,631 22-03-2008, 01:58 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pool
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool

According to the poll you are in the majority if you want to keep the look of the building. __________________________________________________________________ [[i]There is a problem which keeps th...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 153 170,631 23-03-2008, 10:53 AM
  Thread: Planning Application: M&Co to become a Morrisons Local?
Post: RE: M&Co to become a Morrisons Local

Does anyone think that an M local would be cheaper than Sainsbury's? I'd be very surprised if it's not more expensive than Sainsbury's. Local, Metro, Local etc stores generally are.
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 141 165,000 15-07-2014, 11:41 PM
  Thread: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road
Post: RE: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road

Anotherjohns proposals are about spot on in the real world and what should happen. Another vote of support here. It's rooted in so much common sense that the council or TFL wouldn't do anything lik...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 211 155,562 26-06-2015, 10:40 AM
  Thread: Louise House
Post: RE: Louise House - to list or not to list?

Just an observation. How did Sir Steve not know about English heritage. Surely they must have spoken to someone at the council. Who let them into the building otherwise, clearly they had seen inside. ...
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 130 154,248 10-09-2008, 11:33 AM
  Thread: 14 Waldram Park Road
Post: RE: 14 Waldram Park Road

It's a handsome building. I haven't seen it for a while. Have the left the original windows and the rather beautiful original door intact?
sydenhamcentral SE23 Topics 114 141,968 13-05-2010, 11:13 AM
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