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Thread: Horniman Licence Application
Post: RE: Horniman Licence Application
| Thanks Michael. A really useful summary and what I was hoping to find out. All sounds pretty reasonable and in line with what the Horniman present already to me. |
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Thread: Horniman Licence Application
Post: RE: Horniman Licence Application
| Is there somewhere to see this application online, and find out more on what the Horniman have planned if they get the licence?
Its all very well speculating about what might be planned, but would... |
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Thread: Moving back to the area - schools
Post: RE: Moving back to the area - schools
| Hi Apple
welcome (back) to the area!
Horniman built a new building out the front of the school to house the bulge last year.
Fairlawn (is that the other school of the two you are thinking?) ... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Loncdl - nice suggestion, but perhaps in the first instance TLERA should work to resolve the situation as it is now - perhaps there is a middle ground acceptable to both parties. Finding new premises ... |
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09-03-2012, 03:51 PM |
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Thread: Horniman Licence Application
Post: RE: The Horniman and the 14,999
| Hurrah, I'll finally be able to have my dream local wedding - just us and 14,997 of our closest friends. :laugh: |
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09-03-2012, 03:43 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Yes, it is still a home. And to discuss house prices and ability to sell on the hill is just vulgar, according to the tutting given by residents last night! :) |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| As regards the neighbour, I personally witnessed a completely outrageous response to a neighbourly question that my husband asked of him after the meeting. His reaction to that, to me showed the type ... |
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09-03-2012, 02:27 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Yes. Although according to TLERA, no-one should worry as the neighbour would have to have serious misgivings about the business, enough to risk 'substantial amounts of money' in order to contest it.
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09-03-2012, 02:15 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Still no valid reasons as to noise/nuisance. These questions were asked repeatedly, and repeatedly side-stepped.
The neighbour taking the action did get given 2 minutes to explain, but that two min... |
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09-03-2012, 02:06 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| In a word - horrible. Whilst Piplings did at last get a chance to talk to the community, and the fact of the vote got c200 people in a room (which is unheard of for anything other than the fireworks t... |
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09-03-2012, 01:18 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| ummango - it is TLERA itself that has chosen to become deeply involved in this debate.
Friends of Piplings distributed a flyer to the local area (not restricted to the Estate) asking for support for... |
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07-03-2012, 05:40 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| But pipling herself stated that she spoke to neighbours AFTER submitting the application, so indeed you would have received the notification first.
I believe that she also tried to contact both immed... |
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05-03-2012, 08:39 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Orange, TLERA themselves have indicated that they are accepting late membership payments from those in support of the closure of the nursery as well. They are at least in this matter allowing both poi... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| AGM's are held, but personally I find that the date is announced in a newsletter that arrives either with far too short notice to attend, or after the fact.
I'm also sure that if the current commit... |
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05-03-2012, 11:12 AM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| [b]Attendance at TLERA SGM[/b]
In order to be admitted to the upcoming TLERA SGM next week, you need to have a personally addressed invitation, with voting slip.
These have been delivered ONLY t... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Carole, I hope its not too late, and at the SGM we can start some open and honest discussions with all parties.
The SGM meeting has been called, and the road reps will I'm sure be delivering notice... |
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28-02-2012, 01:34 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Jacks - you appear to be a personal friend of Mr Lee's ex-partner, by the way you keep referring to her. Is that the case? |
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26-02-2012, 04:22 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| And there are over 300 people who are very much in favour of Piplings, as evident by the number of people who have signed the online and in paper.
Piplings is a SMALL nursery. 24 (maximum) childre... |
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26-02-2012, 04:20 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Jacks, you came from East Dulwich Forum, after the "hundreds of posts about TLERA"? I just did a quick search on there and can only find 7 posts that mention TLERA - all about the nursery yes, but not... |
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26-02-2012, 02:10 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| DaveL mentioned that this note was sent to one household "who could not otherwise be contacted". My question was therefore not why this letter didn't go to more people, but that why do I know of other... |
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23-02-2012, 02:32 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| The letter sent recently TLERA certainly doesn't look like a note for one individual, because they could not be contacted. If that is the case, why does it not have specifics to that address (Name, ad... |
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23-02-2012, 02:07 PM |
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Thread: Planning Application: 51-53 Canonbie Road
Post: RE: Planning application: 51-53 Canonbie Road
| Anyone heard any more about the 2nd application that has been submitted for this site? Still nothing on the Lewisham planning portal. |
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16-02-2012, 02:20 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Saddened - unfortunately you really don't seem to understand what I, and 47 other signatories to the request for an SGM, want to achieve from this meeting. It is not a TLERA 'witch hunt' as you seem t... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| So, it seems TLERA continue to stall the SGM, and so the saga continues.
Despite a call for an SGM made earlier this week, we have still not heard of a date for the requested SGM, and today we hav... |
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11-02-2012, 11:38 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Seeformiles - no planning laws have been broken. Full planning process has been completed and approved. The covenant that is being debated currently was effectively made obsolete a) as soon as the dev... |
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10-02-2012, 06:43 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Opinion - I believe the name of the nursery was available in the thread very early in 2010, so a search of all contents of the forum should have brought it up. Can't say why it didnt now, 2 years on.
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08-02-2012, 03:07 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| To clarify (I hope) the point on planning permission.
Piplings did apply for all the necessary permissions, well in advance of opening, and took advice from the planners on the length of time it woul... |
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08-02-2012, 01:38 PM |
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Thread: Please put swings back in the Triangle!
Post: RE: Please put swings back in the Triangle!
| Great news Michael, and well done to the Forest Hill Soc for getting this valuable addition to what is a great play area, but will be even better with swings! |
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07-02-2012, 10:12 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| I am also looking forward to the SGM, to hear directly from all parties involved (Piplings, TLERA and also hopefully the next door neighbours bringing the action?) to get first hand information and an... |
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Thread: Planning Application: 51-53 Canonbie Road
Post: RE: Planning application: 51-53 Canonbie Road
| I last heard that the decision was delayed as the applicant kept saying that they might pull the application before it was refused. In which case, its seems slightly perverse that they would appeal on... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Orange.
You do not live in the area being discussed.
You do not know all the facts. (Yes, Piplings DID indeed consult all neighbours that were willing/available before applying for planning permi... |
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03-02-2012, 03:31 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| I think "concern about the lack of communication from TLERA committee to members, and the committee's use of members' subscription fees" should also be added as a reason. |
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03-02-2012, 03:25 PM |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| orange - if you, or your friend has an issue with school children throwing rubbish then I suggest that you or they contact the school directly, who will be able to speak to the children about it witho... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| IWAF - ah, I see. In that case I think the really unique thing about TLE is the views over much of it to central London or Kent (depending on which side of the hill you are). I believe, though may be ... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| There's lots of things that make it unique - lovely views, good sized house and gardens etc. But I'm guessing you mean something specific? |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| KateGould - we haven't heard from TLERA yet about an EGM. They have received several requests I know, but not sure whether its got to the 15 required to force an EGM.
If anyone would like to attend... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Sherwood, its the neighbours the other side that run the business. They tried, but couldn't bring any action themselves as they don't have the 'benefit' over Number 5. However, Piplings could technica... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| No crime has been committed by the nursery - it is not acting illegally. The covenant may have been breached, and I think this is the major point of concern from all parties, especially the other 100 ... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Two quotes have stuck in my mind over this recently. One from the petition to save Piplings:
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I'm wondering 'What would Lord Denning do in this situation?' ... my overwhelming feeling is that he... |
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Thread: Tewkesbury Ave Mon 30/1/12
Post: RE: Tewkesbury Ave last night
| I don't know any more - did wonder what was going on though.
But helicopters circling in the airspace above the estate? Surely there must be a covenant that we can use to stop this nuisance? ;) |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| The South London Press have run with the story in today's issue. Its on page 13, or if you haven't got a copy, read on the Friends of Piplings site [url=http://friendsofpiplings.wordpress.com/news/ ]S... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Gingernuts, the nursery operates as a sole trader. This sole trader resides at the property. I believe that if the owner decided to sell the business, she would also have to move out, which means the ... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| That's just Piplings point. Their business does not cause disturbance, and they are considerate to their neighbours.
Whilst I was standing outside the nursery today with some other mums, a mum and ch... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| TLERA indicate that other businesses on the estate have nothing to fear, as long as they are not causing a nuisance. But in fact, this action is being brought against the nursery on the breach of cove... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| As dbboy says, only one neighbour is bringing the legal action, supported, in kind and financially, by the TLERA road representative and the committee of TLERA.
Some other neighbours were initially... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Dbboy - that's the definition of NIMBY-ism, surely? So you're saying all is fine as the nursery can move down the road, out of the area, no longer disturbing anyone in the neighbourhood.
What about... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Roz, the nursery isn't gone yet. Yes, parents have been given notice of the closure, but we are all aware that its not quite a done deal, and are hoping very much that the massive support that is bein... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| 152047 - This is such a red herring. All of the scenarios you listed would require planning permission, I believe. Planning law exists (and came into being after the covenants we are talking about, es... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| Straighttalk - As a parent, I for one am very glad to see that Piplings have had the consideration and forethought to advise parents that the nursery may have to close well in advance of it becoming a... |
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Thread: Planning: Nursery at Liphook Crescent
Post: RE: Planning Application: Nursery at Liphook Cresc...
| STB76 - you raise an interesting point about TLERA not having consulted residents as a whole.
A recent planning application on Canonbie road also attracted a similar number of objections, and TLERA ... |
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