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Thread: Betty Swanwick
Post: RE: Betty Swanwick
| Here's a bit more information on Betty Swanwick:
She was the daughter of Henry Gerard Swanwick, born Ada Elizabeth Edith on 22/5/1915 in Colfe Road, Forest Hill. She attended Prendergast School and... |
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Thread: Local history question
Post: RE: Local history question
| Several people have drawn my attention to this thread (one of them even gently chiding me for not having updated my blog for some years) so I felt I should post something.
In 1843 the plot bounded t... |
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Thread: Taymount Grange on Nick Knowles' Original Features
Post: RE: Taymount Grange on Nick Knowles' Original Feat...
| It's repeated at 4pm this afternoon, 25th Oct, on Virgin 265 and Sky 246 |
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Thread: Lionel Jeffries
Post: RE: Lionel Jeffries
| He was born in Forest Hill, at a maternity home run by two midwives at 77 Sunderland Road. However his parents Bernard (a Salvation Army officer) and Elsie were living at 1 Hansler Road, East Dulwich ... |
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Thread: Robert Elms at Horniman 16 February
Post: RE: Robert Elms at Horniman 16 February
| It's OK, Jane, I spoke to Sarah about half an hour ago. Apparently her programme was about to go on air so she will call me later today to talk more fully. |
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15-02-2010, 01:40 PM |
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Thread: Robert Elms at Horniman 16 February
Post: RE: Robert Elms at Horniman 16 February
| Thanks for alerting me, Michael. It sounds very interesting.
I suppose I take "the form of a local historian" so I will contact Sarah Bateson. I also have one or two local objects that may be of in... |
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Thread: V&A Collection to come to Horniman
Post: RE: V&A Collection to come to Horniman
| [quote="Michael"]?I was told that most of the existing collection of musical instruments at the Horniman came from the Great Exhibition at the Crystal Palace, which had links to Horniman.[/quote]
Not... |
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stevegrindlay |
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Thread: Photographs of HOP
Post: RE: Photographs of HOP
| Here?s a couple of pictures of Honor Oak Park:
[url=http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4250963158_6246418c77_o.jpg][img]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4250963158_80ab05ea03_b.jpg[/img][/url]
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stevegrindlay |
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Thread: Arthur Dorrell
Post: RE: Arthur Dorrell
| Jad Adams, who still lives in one of the Dorrell buildings, wrote an excellent book called "A History of Kings & Princes Garth", published in 1993. You may have seen a copy in the Lewisham Local Histo... |
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stevegrindlay |
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13-11-2009, 09:43 PM |
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Thread: Louise House
Post: RE: Louise House
| [quote="Rox"]No one mentioned appealing the listing. You can, according to DCSM advice apply to de- list a building and the stronger the community voice and rationale, the better. [/quote]
Where on e... |
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stevegrindlay |
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17-10-2009, 11:38 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I would just like to point out, davhel52, that the group actively involved with the KSFH campaign has a significant number of labour party supporters and maybe even a Tory or two. Our personal politic... |
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stevegrindlay |
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15-07-2009, 12:10 PM |
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Thread: History of Bovill Road Area
Post: RE: Corbett Houses in Forest Hill
| [quote=jon14]The houses at the top of Bovill on Garthorne are different from the rest. Was that bomb damage?[/quote]
It was bomb damage. This extract from the bomb damage maps shows that the houses w... |
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stevegrindlay |
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10-07-2009, 08:32 PM |
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Thread: History of Bovill Road Area
Post: RE: Corbett Houses in Forest Hill
| I can't say much about Garthorne Road, hoppy, other than it was built about 1903-1905.
Bovill Road is a bit more interesting. The oldest part is round the General Napier with nos.53-63 and the terr... |
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stevegrindlay |
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09-07-2009, 08:04 PM |
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Thread: Corbett Houses in Forest Hill
Post: RE: Corbett Houses in Forest Hill
| I don't think they can be "Corbett" houses, Roz. There is a fairly detailed study of his work and it makes no mention of houses in Forest Hill. A. Cameron Corbett (as he's usually known) was a builder... |
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stevegrindlay |
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01-07-2009, 10:08 PM |
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Thread: Royal Visit to Forest Hill
Post: Royal Visit to Forest Hill
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02-06-2009, 10:08 AM |
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Thread: Songs Featuring Local Areas
Post: RE: Songs featuring SE23
| [quote="Michael"]...the Red Flag (Communist anthem) was written on the train from Charing Cross to Honor Oak Park![/quote]
I don't think this is so. The [u][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Con... |
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stevegrindlay |
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13-05-2009, 06:41 AM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| I'm glad to hear it , Brian.
I find the suggestions that petitioners have been pressurising people to sign, and in particular the description of one of them as "extremely unpleasant", rather offens... |
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09-04-2009, 08:14 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Baboonery, the passage of time appears to have done little to soften the memory of an encounter you first told us about in September last year (Post: [url=http://www.se23.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=... |
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09-04-2009, 12:16 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| [quote="first Baboonery"]Just like SFFH skewed its consultation in in [sic] favour of retaining the old building...[/quote]
How, exactly, was it skewed? First, it was not a consultation, just a petit... |
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stevegrindlay |
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08-04-2009, 09:11 PM |
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Thread: Land Registry Fraud
Post: RE: Land Registry Fraud
| I understand that it is only the deeds relating to current ownership (and perhaps the transfer from the previous owner to the current owner) of a particular property that have legal significance.
F... |
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stevegrindlay |
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06-04-2009, 04:26 PM |
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Thread: Favourite SE23 Google Map Picture
Post: RE: Favourite SE23 Google Map Picture
| What could have been happening in Fairlie Gardens to have led to [url=http://local.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.446946,-0.05197&spn=0,359.961376&z=15&layer=c&cbll=51.447031,-0.05195&panoid=TgYG3bRl9iHR... |
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23-03-2009, 04:35 PM |
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Thread: Louise House
Post: RE: Louise House
| I remember her too. My recollection (which carries no more weight than anyone else's) was that she was angry and rather confused. If she heard this conversation when she was 10 years old and it occure... |
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12-03-2009, 09:13 PM |
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Thread: Louise House
Post: RE: Louise House
| You are correct, Michael. Louise House ceased to be a Girls' Home in the mid-1930s (the word "Industrial" was abandoned a little earlier, in about 1929, when it was carefully chipped from the facade).... |
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11-03-2009, 09:52 AM |
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Thread: Louise House
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| When Roz asked for evidence to support sniffer's claim that "Louise House was built for the training of orphaned and impoverished girls to improve their chances of earning a respectable living as inde... |
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10-03-2009, 06:36 PM |
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Thread: Louise House
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Are you seriously suggesting, Roz, that a film made in 2002, dealing with a Catholic institution in Ireland, is a better source of information about Louise House, a non-secular institution, than the s... |
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stevegrindlay |
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09-03-2009, 08:59 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| [quote="Foresters"]...Unfortunately, it seems that Willow Way is just in the Forest Hill Ward...[/quote]
That has only been true for a few years (since 2002, I think). Until then Willow Way was in Sy... |
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27-02-2009, 06:33 PM |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| Maybe, except the reservoir was in Sydenham.
The Willow Way pools proposed in option 3 would be little more than 10 yards from the reservoir bank, so I suppose that would bring swimming in the area... |
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stevegrindlay |
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24-02-2009, 08:04 PM |
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Thread: Pool Poll: Which pool option do you prefer?
Post: RE: Pool Poll: Which pool option do you prefer?
| Thank you, andrew; serves me right for asking, I suppose. Anyway, I still believe the result so far is indicative of people's views, including those I've spoken to who come nowhere near the internet. |
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13-02-2009, 02:07 PM |
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Thread: Pool Poll: Which pool option do you prefer?
Post: RE: Pool Poll: Which pool option do you prefer?
| I'll admit, andrewr, that I have little understanding, and less interest, in statistics but surely there is an element of self-selection in all polls; people choose whether or not they want to take pa... |
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13-02-2009, 01:32 PM |
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Thread: One Tree Hill
Post: RE: One Tree Hill
| I forgot to mention that I've uploaded some images of One Tree Hill to [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevegrindlay/sets/72157601667913682/]flickr[/url]:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevegrindlay... |
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13-02-2009, 01:16 PM |
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Thread: One Tree Hill
Post: RE: One Tree Hill
| I'm also related to John Nisbet; he was my great-grandfather. His daughter Kate married my grandfather, William Grindlay, in 1908. They spent most of their married life in Stondon Park.
John Nis... |
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13-02-2009, 01:08 PM |
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Thread: Pool Poll: Which pool option do you prefer?
Post: RE: Pool Poll: Which pool option do you prefer?
| steveb, the poll now stands at 90 people; how many do you think should respond before the result can be regarded as statistically valid? |
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13-02-2009, 12:07 PM |
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Thread: The Blitz
Post: RE: The Blitz
| [quote="Ciej"]Is there a map that shows Derby Hill / Derby Hill Crescent?[/quote]
It was a little tricky as Derby Hill extends across two maps. This is the best I can manage:
[img]http://farm4.s... |
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22-01-2009, 03:27 PM |
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Thread: The Blitz
Post: RE: The Blitz
| I've been asked to upload the maps showing bomb damage towards Honor Oak Park and parts of Stanstead Road. If anybody is interested in areas I have missed, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
A... |
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21-01-2009, 05:18 PM |
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Thread: The History of Forest Hill
Post: RE: The History of Forest Hill
| Actually, Perryman, I didn't respond immediately as I wondered whether you were being ironic... |
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15-01-2009, 08:22 AM |
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Thread: The History of Forest Hill
Post: RE: The History of Forest Hill
| I agree with you up to a point, Michael. The use of "St Germain's Road" dates from perhaps 1858 (the pub appeared in 1867) and for that reason alone it should continue unchallenged.
However, it was... |
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14-01-2009, 10:26 PM |
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Thread: The History of Forest Hill
Post: RE: The History of Forest Hill
| Dacres Road, along with Mayow Road, Wynell Road and Adamsrill Road, is named after the family that once owned the land.
In the 1770s a vast estate, extending from Sydenham Road to Perry Vale and bo... |
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14-01-2009, 04:35 PM |
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Thread: The History of Forest Hill
Post: RE: The History of Forest Hill
| [quote=PVP]How do you embed a previous mail in a response??[/quote]
There may be an easier way to do it, but I use a small bit of code. For example, to get the above I used:
(quote=PVP)How do yo... |
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13-01-2009, 01:59 PM |
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Thread: The History of Forest Hill
Post: RE: The History of Forest Hill
| It's just occurred to me that there may be another explanation. Ewelme and Benson are in Oxfordshire, a few miles SE of Oxford. They are within 10-15 miles of the village of Forest Hill and also the h... |
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13-01-2009, 07:32 AM |
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Thread: The History of Forest Hill
Post: RE: The History of Forest Hill
| Usually such names (Dunoon, Ewelme, Benson) are chosen by the builder/ developer, and referred to places that were significant to them for some reason. The best I can come up with is the Dorrell Broth... |
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12-01-2009, 09:58 PM |
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Thread: Map of London V2 bomb sites
Post: RE: Map of London V2 bomb sites
| Forgive me for repeating myself, but this subject has also just cropped up under "The Blitz" thread in the SE23 section. This is simply a copy of my answer there:
[quote=Steve"]The resolution is no... |
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12-01-2009, 09:42 PM |
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Thread: The Blitz
Post: RE: The Blitz
| The resolution isn't as high as it might be, so I've uploaded the relevant maps from my copy of the book. I'd previously been reluctant because I was unsure about copyright issues.
This is the link... |
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12-01-2009, 09:34 PM |
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Thread: The History of Forest Hill
Post: RE: The History of Forest Hill
| [quote="Michael"]I am sure it should be called St Germain's Road[/quote]
Actually not. A pedant would insist that it be called "St Germans Road", and if there were an apostrophe it should be after th... |
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11-01-2009, 02:18 PM |
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Thread: The History of Forest Hill
Post: RE: The History of Forest Hill
| Canadian Avenue was called Berlin Avenue from about 1879. It was changed, for obvious reasons, in 1917. The choice of Canadian Avenue was apparently because of the the Canadian troops billeted in the ... |
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10-01-2009, 09:54 PM |
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Thread: Camille Pissarro's Paintings of Forest Hill
Post: RE: Camille Pissarro's paintings of Forest Hill
| The original is on display at the Courtauld Institute Galleries in the Strand; I imagine you could buy a copy from them. |
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Thread: Mayow Park
Post: RE: Mayow Park
| Brian, I wouldn't want to question what your venerable source remembers. All I can say is that a bowling green is not shown on the 1936 OS map (at a scale of 60" to the mile, and showing each individu... |
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09-12-2008, 05:39 PM |
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Thread: Mayow Park
Post: RE: Mayow Park
| [quote="Brian"]Could be that they were opening a newer bowling green in 1949[/quote] There was definitely no earlier bowling green, Brian. I have a more or less complete sequence of maps of the area a... |
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01-12-2008, 08:46 PM |
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Thread: Mayow Park
Post: RE: Mayow Park
| Brian, that is completely wrong. The original lease makes no mention of a bowling green, which was created in 1949. Until then the area covered by the tennis courts and bowling green was open parklan... |
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Thread: Shops, pubs, restaurants, etc
Post: RE: Prince of Wales Pub, Perry Rise
| Thanks for giving the link, Rob; perhaps I can add a little more.
The lane beside the Prince of Wales is called Shaw's Lane. Originally there were 8 cottages along this lane, built by Thomas Shaw. ... |
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Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)
| [quote="ros"]Some ... members of a local amenity society ... appear to have been proactive in disrupting the process by using effectively privileged knowledge[/quote]
If it is a fact, I'm sure you ... |
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