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  Thread: Betty Swanwick
Post: RE: Betty Swanwick

Should I have heard of her?
robin orton SE23 Topics 14 13,368 05-05-2016, 03:41 PM
  Thread: English Usage
Post: RE: English Usage

Should it really be pronounced 'PaTalbot', which is what the BBC seem to think?
robin orton Wider Topics 587 489,473 09-04-2016, 07:08 PM
  Thread: English Usage
Post: RE: English Usage

:rofl: indeed!
robin orton Wider Topics 587 489,473 06-04-2016, 08:05 AM
  Thread: English Usage
Post: RE: English Usage

I've always said PAN-a-mah, but I heard pan-a-ma (all short vowels and no stress) twice yesterday on the BBC. What's going on? Personally, I find this thread very interesting.
robin orton Wider Topics 587 489,473 06-04-2016, 07:41 AM
  Thread: Consultation on Controlled Parking Zone in Forest Hill
Post: RE: Consultation on Controlled Parking Zone in For...

[url=https://sydenham.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14057&start=60]According to Cllr Chris Best[/url], we can expect a proper report on the consultation at some stage.
robin orton SE23 Topics 127 124,211 05-04-2016, 02:27 PM
  Thread: Croydon Canal to be Reinstated after 200 years
Post: RE: Croydon Canal to be Reinstated after 200 years

It's after midday, you know.
robin orton SE23 Topics 9 7,789 01-04-2016, 04:07 PM
  Thread: Croydon Canal to be Reinstated after 200 years
Post: RE: Croydon Canal to be Reinstated after 200 years

Great news. I assume I shall be able to use my Freedom Pass? Will there be step-free access to the Overground at New Cross Gate? Well done, the FH Society!
robin orton SE23 Topics 9 7,789 01-04-2016, 08:10 AM
  Thread: English Usage
Post: RE: English Usage

Pal-my-ra or Pal-me-ra? Or doesn't it matter?
robin orton Wider Topics 587 489,473 28-03-2016, 10:10 AM
  Thread: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road
Post: RE: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road

As I understand it, the official view is that the planned changes to Dartmouth Road itself should make traffic flow there easier because illegally or inconsiderately parked cars will no longer obstruc...
robin orton SE23 Topics 211 155,725 25-03-2016, 11:03 AM
  Thread: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road
Post: RE: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road

[quote]More cyclists generally wheeling around would help slow traffic in DR...[/quote] But isn't traffic in Dartmouth Road, at any rate between Holy Trinity school and the South Circular, slow enoug...
robin orton SE23 Topics 211 155,725 24-03-2016, 04:49 PM
  Thread: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road
Post: RE: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road

[quote][b]Cllr Paul Upex wrote[/b] With regards to the Stakeholder meeting, ... Lewisham Cyclists were also invited...[/quote] Lewisham Motorists too, I hope.
robin orton SE23 Topics 211 155,725 23-03-2016, 10:24 PM
  Thread: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road
Post: RE: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road

[quote]One trader can not be a representative of FHTA far from it! Especially when none of the rest of us were aware of what was going on. This is not the traders fault, I think they were trying their...
robin orton SE23 Topics 211 155,725 22-03-2016, 08:54 AM
  Thread: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road
Post: RE: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road

It sounds as if Michael at any rate is a member of the 'key stakeholder group.' Perhaps he could answer Anotherjohn's question, i.e. tell us who set the group up, who it reports to and who its member...
robin orton SE23 Topics 211 155,725 22-03-2016, 12:25 AM
  Thread: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road
Post: RE: Highway improvements to Dartmouth Road

[quote]The width of the side entry roads (Thorpewood Ave, Clyde Terrace, Derby Hill) was queried. Could they be reduced in width? PCL to look into the possibility and satisfy the adequacy of turning m...
robin orton SE23 Topics 211 155,725 21-03-2016, 06:49 PM
  Thread: English Usage
Post: RE: English Usage

I see that what used to be called 'conjurers' are now 'magicians' and 'conjuring tricks' are now 'magic.' To me a 'magician' is someone who really can produce a rabbit out of a hat, rather than just ...
robin orton Wider Topics 587 489,473 18-03-2016, 10:10 AM
  Thread: Mr Dowd MP
Post: RE: Mr Dowd MP

I sent him an email in November (about bombing Syria) and a reminder email in December. I received neither reply nor acknowledgement to either.
robin orton SE23 Topics 14 11,586 02-03-2016, 09:52 AM
  Thread: Consultation on Controlled Parking Zone in Forest Hill
Post: RE: Consultation on Controlled Parking Zone in For...

I was just thinking the same.
robin orton SE23 Topics 127 124,211 17-02-2016, 10:21 AM
  Thread: Council's Plans for Camberwell Cemetery Woodland
Post: RE: Camberwell Cemetery Woodland

If a relative of mine died and chose to be buried rather than cremated, I wouldn't want to have to traipse out to Pratt's Bottom or wherever to tend their grave.
robin orton SE23 Topics 133 97,485 11-02-2016, 06:45 PM
  Thread: English Usage
Post: RE: English Usage

Very interesting paper, thanks. What it seems to bring out is how important social considerations are when you choose a name for your child - what other people will think of the name, and who you wan...
robin orton Wider Topics 587 489,473 10-02-2016, 10:12 AM
  Thread: English Usage
Post: RE: English Usage

I've been thinking about fashions in first names. Obviously these change all the time, but there seems to me that there may be a general trend towards (a) abandoning the old custom of choosing at ...
robin orton Wider Topics 587 489,473 09-02-2016, 12:09 PM
  Thread: Ignore List
Post: RE: Ignore List

Indeed. The Sydenham Town Forum has had exactly the same problem, as [url=https://sydenham.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&p=130559#p130559]this thread [/url]illustrates.
robin orton Wider Topics 69 48,852 31-01-2016, 09:29 PM
  Thread: Ignore List
Post: RE: Ignore List

[quote][b]Perryman said[/b]: ...it was just bad timing that I happened to read a batch before they were sent back to the inner circles of hell from where they'd incubated [/quote] Are we allowed ac...
robin orton Wider Topics 69 48,852 30-01-2016, 05:29 PM
  Thread: Austerity
Post: RE: Austerity

[quote] [b]Crassbelch said: [/b] Regarding abortion - it's not a child, it's a bundle of cells called a foetus. And yes, I think it's better to terminate the cells than to wilfully bring a child into ...
robin orton Wider Topics 141 103,761 29-01-2016, 08:50 AM
  Thread: Austerity
Post: RE: Austerity

[quote]We are £1.5 TRILLION in debt as a nation, and despite our low costs of borrowing, paying the interest of this debt costs the taxpayer £43 BILLION a year. That's an average of £2000 per househol...
robin orton Wider Topics 141 103,761 23-01-2016, 11:50 AM
  Thread: On a light note if you are doing your tax return like me,.
Post: RE: On a light note if you are doing your tax retu...

'On a light note....'? This part of the forum is beginning to get a bit like the notorious 'Town Pub' on the Sydenham Town Forum, which is now accessible only to registered users, because its tone ...
robin orton Wider Topics 25 19,495 21-01-2016, 07:13 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

[quote]I agree with P1971’s sentiment, this thread has got a bit ugly. [/quote] If people think I have contributed to that ugliness, I apologise. As so often in this sort of case, the post in question...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 17-01-2016, 10:20 AM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

Why is everyone so keen on encouraging him to go away? Is it that he's not our sort of chap?
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 15-01-2016, 10:23 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

[quote]Why is it acceptable for me to be "socially cleansed" from the areas I'd like to live, but not for others? [/quote] Because you are young, intelligent, well-educated, charming, with good socia...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 14-01-2016, 11:53 AM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

[quote]Seems obvious to me that if housing is available for workers near their workplace, it's better for the economy and society? It makes the workforce more accessible. Is that not self-evident?[/qu...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 13-01-2016, 10:11 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

I'm not sure what 'better for the economy' means in this context. Do you mean it would encourage growth of GDP? If so, how? 'Better for society in general'? - similarly, I don't see how. And it would ...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 13-01-2016, 07:43 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

That figure includes students and other people who would not be expected to work, including those who are sick or disabled. Of the others, I expect many have pretty limited work abilities and skills, ...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 13-01-2016, 06:41 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

[quote]Council tenants displaced [...] should be thankful for the many years we have paid for them to live in the heart of the most desirable cities in the world. They've saved an awful lot of expens...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 13-01-2016, 06:00 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

Obviously we all like having some PLUs living nearby, particularly as our next-door neighbours. But I don't believe we should be basing our social or housing policy on that sort of consideration.
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 13-01-2016, 10:14 AM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

We've 'invested in the area', having bought a house here and paid large amounts of council tax over the years. I don't want the area to 'improve' if it means pushing property prices (or indeed rents)...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 12-01-2016, 10:24 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

For all I know (not much), there might indeed be something to be said for attracting more investment bankers to some parts of Wales. (They'd have to learn Welsh, of course, and make sure their childre...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 12-01-2016, 05:24 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

I'm not talking about 'picking and choosing the most expensive parts of the country to live in'. I suspect poorer people may rely more on geographical proximity on getting social support from friends ...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 12-01-2016, 03:46 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

[quote]If you have not invested a penny of your own earnings in housing you have no right to demand to stay where you are[/quote] That's right. Turf them out, the feckless lot. They're going feel inc...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 12-01-2016, 01:32 PM
  Thread: Running for local Councillor
Post: RE: Running for local Councillor

Another Establishment behind-the-scenes stitch-up? What happened to open government? ;)
robin orton SE23 Topics 23 19,827 06-01-2016, 03:54 PM
  Thread: Running for local Councillor
Post: RE: Running for local Councillor

What is it?
robin orton SE23 Topics 23 19,827 06-01-2016, 01:06 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

What I'm never sure about is whether working for a bank (OK) is the same as being a banker (totally evil). My son-in-law works for a bank (in IT). Does that make him a banker? Hope not, because othe...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 05-01-2016, 04:38 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

That's a bit rude, Red67. I think he sounds an admirable young man. I'm sure he'll make someone a wonderful son-in-law, if he isn't one already.
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 04-01-2016, 06:48 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

I'm always a bit uncomfortable about 'aspiration'. 'Aspire' to what? Food, shelter, warmth, health, physical security, obviously. Living a good and useful life, probably. Marriage, children, providing...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 04-01-2016, 12:28 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Gentrification

[quote]I work in the finance sector and am happy to report that they are human beings that love their children and neighbours just as much as anyone else. [/quote] Thanks, that's reassuring.
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 04-01-2016, 10:02 AM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Running for local Councillor

Are 'young management consultants, bankers and lawyers' nice people on the whole? I'm not sure I know any. Would they make good neighbours? Do they have noisy parties? Would they take in your parcels ...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 03-01-2016, 06:12 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Running for local Councillor

Is 'working in culture, media or sport' a proxy for 'aspirational'?
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 03-01-2016, 04:36 PM
  Thread: Gentrification
Post: RE: Running for local Councillor

[quote]This area is gentrifying. There are aspirational people moving in and buying homes - making a long-term investment in the area - yet there is no one in the council that represents us. There is...
robin orton Wider Topics 133 87,067 02-01-2016, 01:36 PM
  Thread: English Usage
Post: RE: English Usage

I've now looked at references in my (2009) edition of the OED to 'pig in a blanket.' The expression is first recorded in 1902, where it is said to be the American equivalent to our 'angels on horseba...
robin orton Wider Topics 587 489,473 31-12-2015, 09:37 PM
  Thread: Merry Christmas & Happy Hogmanay
Post: RE: Merry Christmas & Happy Hogmanay

I'll drink to that. Robin
robin orton SE23 Topics 2 3,653 25-12-2015, 10:59 AM
  Thread: English Usage
Post: RE: English Usage

I've obviously had a sheltered life.
robin orton Wider Topics 587 489,473 18-12-2015, 05:36 PM
  Thread: English Usage
Post: RE: English Usage

In the Christmas dinner context, I've noticed for the first time this year the expression 'pig in a blanket', which apparently means a sausage wrapped in bacon. Who invented this term, I wonder?
robin orton Wider Topics 587 489,473 18-12-2015, 09:06 AM
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