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  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I agree that the existing pools frontage building is at best (on a sunny day) undistinguished, at worst bleak and unattractive. The 'Save the Face of Forest Hill' campaign is, in my view, fundamental...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 13-02-2009, 10:10 AM
  Thread: Pool Poll: Which pool option do you prefer?
Post: RE: Pool Poll: Which pool option do you prefer?

I would be very disappointed if the mayor [b]didn't [/b]initiate proper community consultation. The views of amenity societies, special interest groups and those of us with the time and inclination to...
robin orton SE23 Topics 20 25,817 13-02-2009, 12:48 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Here is an email I have just sent to the mayor: 'Dear Sir Steve In my view the desiderata are, in descending order of importance 1. the best building (architecturally) that can be afforded...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 17-02-2009, 12:19 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Thanks, Grasshopper. I personally don't feel in a position to judge between the options, particularly the financial aspects. I thought it might be more useful to give my views, as a Forest Hill ward r...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 17-02-2009, 06:09 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Michael, I think I assumed that 'quality of facilities', certainly as regards the swimming pools themselves + changing rooms etc (the most important 'facility', I take it) would automatically be a des...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 17-02-2009, 07:20 PM
  Thread: Tips on tips?
Post: RE: Tips on tips?

What's the easiest, cheapest and greenest way for FH people to get rid of small electronic devices which are redundant and/or past repair? I know charities have freepost addresses for mobiles - but wh...
robin orton Wider Topics 28 41,487 01-03-2009, 12:09 PM
  Thread: WH Smith & Post Office, Forest Hill
Post: RE: WH Smith & Post Office, Forest Hill

Little Saigon, a few shops up Dartmouth Road from Smith's, are open for papers at 8.00 am on Sundays and earlier (7.00?) on Saturdays.
robin orton SE23 Topics 157 174,840 01-03-2009, 06:29 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Central
Post: RE: Forest Hill Central

Walking down London Road this morning past the Wetherspoon pub, I noticed for the first time that the new flats truncate the fine view from there of the much-admired steeple of what was Christ Church,...
robin orton SE23 Topics 289 274,086 01-03-2009, 07:25 PM
  Thread: WH Smith & Post Office, Forest Hill
Post: RE: WH Smith & Post Office, Forest Hill

Sorry, I didn't recognize the name 'HCMC'.
robin orton SE23 Topics 157 174,840 01-03-2009, 07:32 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

<<I believe that the vast majority of the local population want the pool to remain on its present site in Dartmouth Road. >> <<The thought of losing the Pools from Forest Hill, especially in light ...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 04-03-2009, 06:18 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Does 'in Forest Hill' mean 'on the existing site'? Or 'in SE23'? Or 'in Forest Hill ward'?
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 09-03-2009, 03:53 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

I feel uneasy about Perryman's statement that 'SE23 is pretty united on option 2.' What about the views of Gaz, DavidWhiting, Roz, Baboonery, Alanque and aswaspooluser, all vigorously expressed on th...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 16-03-2009, 05:37 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Perryman, I think you're misrepresenting the views of those who, like me, are inclined to support option 3. I [u]do[/u] very much want a pool and option 3 seems to provide the best chance of actually...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 16-03-2009, 11:52 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Sorry, 'option 3' in the last sentence of my previous posting should of course be 'option 2'.
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 16-03-2009, 11:55 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Can anyone explain to me the implications of the following, an extract from paragraph 10.10 (about option 2) of the report on the pools considered by the Mayor and Cabinet last month? [i]The value ...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 18-03-2009, 10:09 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Nasaroc is 'confident that people will place the long term future of FH first.' I'd have thought that what should come first is the health and well-being of the people who live in this part of London ...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 24-03-2009, 12:13 AM
  Thread: Louise House
Post: RE: Louise House

Interesting presentation at the FH ward assembly last night by Teresa Howard, about the plans to make LH an arts centre. I see she has already give a report on what happened at and after the meeting a...
robin orton SE23 Topics 130 154,341 26-03-2009, 10:03 AM
  Thread: Planning Application: 35 Sunderland Road
Post: RE: Planning Application: 35 Sunderland Road

It seems to be a Pentecostal church with a West African leadership. It appears that it is being formally inaugurated as a church this weekend - see http://www.hofic.org.uk/coming_events.html.
robin orton SE23 Topics 31 41,821 29-03-2009, 02:36 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

As a swimmer living in FH ward, I'd like, for selfish reasons, there to be a good quality pool nearer to my house than The Bridge as soon as possible. But as a Lewisham citizen and taxpayer, I'd like ...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 08-04-2009, 11:07 AM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Have I won the prize for finding the first evidence of some positive support for the Willow Way site? There is a (one off?) poster in the window of Kirkdale Express Cleaners, headed 'Willow Way All Th...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 11-04-2009, 05:48 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Wasn't Piloti involved in the pools issue earlier, under his real name (Gavin Stamp)?
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 16-04-2009, 10:12 AM
  Thread: Horniman Triangle Play Park
Post: RE: Horniman Triangle Play Park

I walk my dog regularly in Baxter Fields (SE26, but FH ward), where there is a nice little children's playground, including a slide and swings, which is very well used. The absence of a lavatory doesn...
robin orton SE23 Topics 163 171,743 23-04-2009, 10:46 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

[b]Michael[/b] [quote]I believe there are ways to build a pool on the existing site within the budget (not that it is easy), but with the cost of building falling sharply, and with potential cross-su...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 27-04-2009, 10:51 PM
  Thread: Songs Featuring Local Areas
Post: RE: Songs featuring SE23

I agree, Michael, very interesting about 'The Red Flag'. But is it right to call it a 'communist anthem'? I've always associated it with the Labour Party. (Perhaps in the version I learnt at school in...
robin orton Wider Topics 23 26,616 12-05-2009, 08:46 AM
  Thread: Songs Featuring Local Areas
Post: RE: Songs featuring SE23

I have an idea that Hyndman's (Marxist) Social Democratic Federation was one of the bodies that came together to form the Labour Party. Perhaps the Labour Party inherited the song from them.
robin orton Wider Topics 23 26,616 12-05-2009, 04:38 PM
  Thread: Songs Featuring Local Areas
Post: RE: Songs Featuring Local Areas

I've often wondered about the duet between Lady Sangazure and John Wellington Wells in Gilbert and Sullivan's 'The Sorcerer' - MR. W. Hate me! I often roll down One Tree Hill! LADY S. Love me! I...
robin orton Wider Topics 23 26,616 13-05-2009, 11:08 AM
  Thread: Schooling
Post: RE: School Places in SE23

[quote]Surely one of the benefits of our state system is children can meet people of all faiths and none. Society in fact. Also surely after seeing the goings on in Catholic Schools in Eire people wo...
robin orton Wider Topics 27 23,667 21-05-2009, 12:52 PM
  Thread: Schooling
Post: RE: Schooling

As I understand it, the rationale for state-supported faith schools is that parents should be able to have their children educated in a way which reflects the values of their faith rather than the pos...
robin orton Wider Topics 27 23,667 21-05-2009, 08:59 PM
  Thread: Schooling
Post: RE: Schooling

I think that 'man-made institutions' is rather begging the question, Roz, given that Christians believe that the Church was founded by Jesus Christ, i.e. by God. That's not to say of course that indiv...
robin orton Wider Topics 27 23,667 22-05-2009, 06:08 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Michael, as I understand your proposals, there woud be 'live/work' units (on just one floor?) each with a flat (sold or ?rented quite separately) above it. That suggests that the 'live/work' unit wou...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 23-05-2009, 09:00 PM
  Thread: Manor Mount - Abuse of One-Way System
Post: RE: Manor Mount - Abuse of One-Way System

Not always, as a close relative of mine knows to her cost!
robin orton SE23 Topics 143 128,644 11-06-2009, 02:07 PM
  Thread: Local Mobile Signal Strength
Post: RE: Local Mobile Signal Strength

[b]JaneD wrote[/b] [quote]I'm on Vodaphone and have no problems in FH or Sydenham Woods[/quote] I'm surprised at this, because I'm on Vodaphone too and can get hardly any signal in the FH end of...
robin orton SE23 Topics 15 15,851 16-06-2009, 04:07 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

One bit of analysis I can't find - have I missed it? - is how the total number of votes of active swimmers (those who currently swim elsewhere or at any rate were regular FH pool users - I think we w...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 24-06-2009, 04:12 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Is it possible that the number of people who said they were 'unlikely to visit' the WW pools was boosted by tactical voting by those whose main priority is not swimming as such but a desire to ensure ...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 25-06-2009, 01:06 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

[quote]This is all becoming very sad indeed, now even conspiracy theories flourishing behind the curtains of this consultation[/quote] I certainly wasn't suggesting a conspiracy, Millesens. All I w...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 25-06-2009, 04:44 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

[quote]Robin, There is not yet figures on the split between swimmers and non-swimmers, but we have asked for this split to be included in the final report. [/quote] I don't see this in the 'answer...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 02-07-2009, 08:23 AM
  Thread: Newspaper Delivery
Post: RE: Newspaper Delivery

I still see the Asian couple who used to run the newsagent (now closed) in the same block as Provender on Dartmouth Road delivering papers near where I live (Thorpewood area). I think I heard they ar...
robin orton SE23 Topics 15 14,972 02-07-2009, 04:40 PM
  Thread: Newspaper Delivery
Post: RE: Newspaper Delivery

[b]Dylan wrote:[/b] [quote]where is Dartmouth News??? my newsagents run by mr & mrs patel for years and very reliable is now called Heb Mini Market[/quote] Sorry, Dylan, I hadn't properly hoist...
robin orton SE23 Topics 15 14,972 04-07-2009, 10:29 PM
  Thread: Newspaper Delivery
Post: RE: Newspaper Delivery

67 Dartmouth Road, Roz - see http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/directory/1160/62574.php
robin orton SE23 Topics 15 14,972 13-07-2009, 12:12 PM
  Thread: Forest Hill Pools
Post: RE: Forest Hill Pool (continued)

Congratulations to Michael, the Forest Hill Society and everyone else who worked for this result. I voted for WW, not because I don't believe the existing site isn't the better of the two, but because...
robin orton SE23 Topics 2,074 2,040,864 16-07-2009, 11:33 AM
  Thread: Louise House
Post: RE: Louise House

I wrote on 26 March: [quote]Interesting presentation at the FH ward assembly last night by Teresa Howard, about the plans to make LH an arts centre. I see she has already give a report on what happ...
robin orton SE23 Topics 130 154,341 16-07-2009, 04:30 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...

There is a suggestion from the always well-informed Barty on the Sydenham Town forum that the withdrawal of direct services to Charing Cross might be a temporary one - see http://forum.sydenham.org.uk...
robin orton SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,426 27-07-2009, 09:31 AM
  Thread: Horniman Museum and Gardens
Post: RE: Horniman Museum and Gardens

[quote]...all those Chelsea-tractor driving types from the "Other Side of the Hill" whose little Tarquins and Jemimas have taken a liking to the Beach... [/quote] Which hill is this, Mary? I haven'...
robin orton SE23 Topics 293 275,536 07-08-2009, 03:09 PM
  Thread: Jersey Tiger Moths
Post: Jersey Tiger Moths

I've seen three in SE23/26 this year. I remember them from childhood holidays in the Channel Islands in the 1950s, but hadn't realised until this year how far north their range (now?) extended.
robin orton Wider Topics 14 14,316 09-08-2009, 01:58 PM
  Thread: Horniman Museum and Gardens
Post: RE: Horniman Museum and Gardens

Traffic more or less gridlocked round the top of Kirkdale/Sydenham Hill. But it was nice when a young woman knocked on my door and[i] asked [/i] whether she could park in front of our house. I said ye...
robin orton SE23 Topics 293 275,536 09-08-2009, 04:07 PM
  Thread: Jersey Tiger Moths
Post: RE: Jersey Tiger moths

I could see them the first time I opened rob's posting, but now they seem to have disappeared - there's only that irritating little red saltire.
robin orton Wider Topics 14 14,316 10-08-2009, 11:32 AM
  Thread: (Cancelled)
Post: RE: The Future of the Jerk Cookout

I think Contrary Mary's questions could be simplified, viz. 1) Yes 2) Yes, but only with significantly improved parking and traffic management 3) No, even with significantly etc. 4) Don't know...
robin orton SE23 Topics 33 34,867 14-08-2009, 08:25 PM
  Thread: (Cancelled)
Post: RE: The Future of the Jerk Cookout

I don't want to prolong this unnecessarily. But it seems to me that in this sort of choice, 'yes, provided that' is logically the same as 'no, unless'. If I am right, to provide two versions of what ...
robin orton SE23 Topics 33 34,867 15-08-2009, 12:24 PM
  Thread: Conservation Area
Post: RE: Conservation Area

Don't a lot of people nowadays say that paving over front gardens is undesirable anyway, on environmental as well as aesthetic grounds - because it destroys wildlife habitat and, by adding to rainwa...
robin orton SE23 Topics 52 60,080 19-08-2009, 03:42 PM
  Thread: Trains to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oak Park
Post: RE: Train service to/from Forest Hill and Honor Oa...

From what Nasaroc says, it sounds as if complaining to Southern or TfL (e.g. at the meeting on 17 September) about the withdrawal of CX services won't be very productive, if the actual decision was t...
robin orton SE23 Topics 1,398 1,250,426 20-08-2009, 11:21 AM
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